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    #16
    If it was mine I’d baby it for the recommended time. 10 hours is gonna go by quick and you’ll have the piece of mind knowing you did what the manufacturer recommended.

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      #17
      Out of all the trucks/ boats/ off road cars I have had, the ones that I put the hammer too day one have both ran the best and lasted the longest.

      So far the same can be said with the tiges I have had. While you should prob follow what the manual says, this has been my experience and what I do.




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        #18
        thanks for the feedback everyone... love this forum. PM me if you're ever planning on being out at PK lake in North TX. It's malibu and nautique country mostly... gotta change that!

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          #19
          Not breaking an engine in doesn’t mean instant destruction. It may use oil in the future like around 500 hours or more. If someone doesn’t plan on having the boat that long, then who cares. Many dealers don’t care because the vast majority of the boats they sell will change hands many times before those kind of hours get racked up. Then at 800 hrs the new owner will blame a previous owner for the oil leaks. Dealer doesn’t get blamed and it’s long out of warranty anyways. If I was a dealer and someone wants to see what a new $120,000 boat will do, I wouldn’t give a damn what might happen in 4 or 5 years. There was recently another thread that discussed how afraid people are of boats with 400 hrs. It’s all about how long you want your expensive purchase to last. There is a reason race teams rebuild their engines after every race.

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            #20
            New R23+ Engine break-in

            There is absolutely zero way to know if this is true. Way way way too many variables in the life of an engine to be able to pin future oil leaks/usage on improper break in, or anything for that matter.

            While nice to be able to follow instructions, I would have a ton of doubt that it makes any difference whatsoever in these motors.

            They’re made well and made to be used.

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              #21
              Everyone has different opinions as stated above. Rings seat almost immediately. The big reason to vary the rpm is for the cam shaft. It requires different rpms to wear in properly without being damaged. I would avoid wide open throttle for the first ten hours. Then get your service done. Other than that drive that thing like you plan on using it. Just keep in mind. Race engines are broken in either on a dyno or at the track. You won’t hurt your engine as Long as you play it smart. I speak from 15 years experience as a certified tech in the Power sports industry.

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                #22
                There is absolutely zero way to know it is not true. One fact is undeniable, dirty oil wears engines out. Oil is very contaminated after break in. Why take the gamble over $30 bucks in oil.

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                  #23
                  New R23+ Engine break-in

                  Never said don’t change your oil there. Just said the 10 hours of RPM discipline probably doesn’t matter.


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                    #24
                    Originally posted by chpthril View Post
                    Do you take your new cars and trucks in and have the oil changed at 300 miles?
                    I love this guy and we go way back.

                    10 hours seems ridiculous but if my old mind serves me right our new 06 22V needed a 20 hour break in which we followed.

                    To bring up old times our V cost us $54,400 which I thought was a ton of money. Forward 12 years later and you can't hardly find a new boat under $90,000.

                    And for all the old guys here, Long Live The V.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Brianrzr View Post
                      There is absolutely zero way to know it is not true. One fact is undeniable, dirty oil wears engines out. Oil is very contaminated after break in. Why take the gamble over $30 bucks in oil.
                      I dont think we were talking oil change. I for one drop it early since boat motors are ran with more load then vehicles. As far as break in and how you run it? From race cars, to race bikes to boats and diesel trucks. I use them the same from day one on. Lots of data out there about setting rings etc that can go either way. For me, using it like it was intended day one has never let me down on anything i have owned.
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                        #26
                        While improvements in the manufacturing process of engine blocks and pistons/rings, etc... have made it possible for effective engine break ins to take much less time and with less hassle than 20 years ago I just don’t understand why so many of you guys are willing to gamble with such an expensive toy. I can see having that point of view if you sell them and get something new every 4-5 years because you most likely have no clue how long it lasted after you sold it. I wouldn’t want to buy something from someone that had that kind of attitude about the longevity of an engine. While I run my toys like they’re supposed to be run I’m probably just biased, I do my best to baby all my stuff so it keeps running. Bottom line, it’s your dollar in the end.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Jetdriver View Post
                          While improvements in the manufacturing process of engine blocks and pistons/rings, etc... have made it possible for effective engine break ins to take much less time and with less hassle than 20 years ago I just don’t understand why so many of you guys are willing to gamble with such an expensive toy. I can see having that point of view if you sell them and get something new every 4-5 years because you most likely have no clue how long it lasted after you sold it. I wouldn’t want to buy something from someone that had that kind of attitude about the longevity of an engine. While I run my toys like they’re supposed to be run I’m probably just biased, I do my best to baby all my stuff so it keeps running. Bottom line, it’s your dollar in the end.
                          I think the pertinent point is that there is variability even between manufacturers on how to break in even the same exact motor. Therefore, who knows what actually is best?

                          Logic prevails: don’t beat the crap out of it, and change the oil after 10-15 hours.


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                            #28
                            ^agreed.

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                              #29
                              Welcome Back Kotter, um, err, Carter Long time no see.

                              I guess the chit, or lack there of, ive seen in 18+ years wrenching for money, i have a different opinion on break in. First, the OP was concerned about the 10 hr oil change. OP, dont sweat it if you run longer due to timing and convenience. a few more hours wont hurt. The filter will still do its job and dont those raptors hold like 10 qrts of oil?

                              As to a break in period. HUGE difference between a race engine coming off the trailer and running at its max for the entire period, and a boat/car/truck engine. Also a huge difference between dogging an engine from the word go and driving it as intended. Driving it as intended is not abuse at any point of the engine's life. if it was, there would be no warranty offered if you drove it outside of the "break-in".

                              I dont think I can contribute one engine failure ive seen, to lack of following the break-in. Dont know of one case of refused warranty due to not following break-in, only obvious abuse. Even then GM did warranty a blown engine with 28K miles that had the assembly line black filter and no record of an oil change, all because the owner returned the next day with their owners manual service book filled out. All the same ink and hand writing. Although following a break in does not hurt, I dont think not following, reduces engine life. Ive seen/owned too many high mileage vehicles. My 15 year old work SUV, made a 560 mile trip yesterday and rolled 275K. Still get an average of 16.8 MPG. Same as new.
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                                #30
                                I think regular oil changes is one of the best things you can do, especially for how cheap and easy it is. I change every 40-50hrs and it costs me less than $40 and 1/2hr of my time. Like Chpthril said, keep track of it in your log book.

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