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    #16
    Originally posted by bsreid View Post
    If so, what is the marine industry doing wrong?
    I wouldn't say it's what they did wrong. Its more of quantity of scale. The marine industry is extremely small. Last year 250,000 boats were sold in the US including jet skis (59,000 units). Ski/wake segment was about 8,800 boats for the year. Last year chevrolet sold 574,000 silverado pickups.
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      #17
      Yep, exactly. If tige had to stock every part for every boat like auto manufacturers they would be out of business pretty quick id imagine.

      I am very curious as to their long term plan for these electronics though, I really hope they have thought through a plan to keep customers happy once things start to go obsolete.

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        #18
        So if you plan on buying a new boat and keeping it for a long time buy a spare touch screen so you have it when it’s no longer available

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          #19
          I think this is being way over analyzed. Murphy has been around for years... both the tige clear and the TT2 are not tige specific units. These are base cockpit screen display systems with tige specific programming. Unless Murphy folds... (Not realistic) then I dont see a problem down the road.
          Last edited by Germaine Marine; 11-14-2017, 08:15 PM.
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            #20
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              #21
              The bigger problem will be getting your hands on the chromax overlay sticker

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                #22
                Tige Touch I was Medallion, IIRC? if so, does Tige have them in stock and ready to ship out? Should be easily answered with the number of Tige dealer reps that are regulars here.
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                  #23
                  Last TT medallion that I replaced was on a 14 Z3 and it was a while back(2 summers ago) Havent done one since so cant testify to availability. Done a couple of the new 7inch screens for phantom touch issues where it gets a mind of its own and starts turning loads on by itself.
                  Certainly something to be said for the keeping up with the joneses theory on helm tech. Malibu is nothing but a big AF screen now. Tige moved to the clear on z series. Seems like the tech race is just going to continue despite owners wanting something more reliable, and cheaper for the long run. Curious to see who steps in next because its all Murphy right now. Doesn't seem to stop many people from buying the dang things though.

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                    #24
                    Medallion still stocks the Tige Touch 1 screens. Its in their lineup as stated above. They will be around for a while and I see them as making retro kits as they change technologies. They have the ag business to support with that screen as well.

                    I don't believe the customer base the industry has now wants a less expensive boat. Otherwise you would see Hayday sell a ton of boats and the top 3 volume ski/wake boat companies would not be the most expensive brands.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by elevatedconcept View Post
                      I think this is being way over analyzed. Murphy has been around for years... both the tige clear and the TT2 are not tige specific units. These are base cockpit screen display systems with tige specific programming. Unless Murphy folds... (Not realistic) then I dont see a problem down the road.
                      Does this mean that 10 years from now a guy will be able to go to Murphy for a screen and then Tige for the program? Or does Murphy sell a screen with the program in it and ready to run? Or will a guy be able to buy a useless screen because Tige "lost that thumb drive 7 years ago"?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by KoolAid View Post
                        Medallion still stocks the Tige Touch 1 screens. Its in their lineup as stated above. They will be around for a while and I see them as making retro kits as they change technologies. They have the ag business to support with that screen as well.

                        I don't believe the customer base the industry has now wants a less expensive boat. Otherwise you would see Hayday sell a ton of boats and the top 3 volume ski/wake boat companies would not be the most expensive brands.
                        Good to know as we have already seen the audio interface fall to the wayside on a boat thats only 4 or so years old. No new source unit thats compatible so your helm screen audio controls are useless now.
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by UNSTUCK View Post
                          Does this mean that 10 years from now a guy will be able to go to Murphy for a screen and then Tige for the program? Or does Murphy sell a screen with the program in it and ready to run? Or will a guy be able to buy a useless screen because Tige "lost that thumb drive 7 years ago"?
                          Numerous people have the files so they will not be lost. Its the beauty of the USB/thumb drive setups we have now. In the past it was a flash programmer on the medallion minis. Now anyone with a thumb drive can update their screen.
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by chpthril View Post
                            Good to know as we have already seen the audio interface fall to the wayside on a boat thats only 4 or so years old. No new source unit thats compatible so your helm screen audio controls are useless now.
                            I'm with you on this one. Clarion dropped the CMD6 and changed the interface on the CMD8. Even with the CMD8 flash update you can't get the Medallion system to work with it. The remotes come back but no dash display.
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                              #29
                              Same issue with the rockford outfitted malibus and clarion mastercrafts and Naughty's. Screens may hang around but but the peripheral side effects are starting to pop up as there is no support for those. This is a result of boats being pieced together from numerous independent vendors. Cars on the other hand, the manufactures typically own a portion of any outside vendors, which is small. They prefer to build in house most of what goes in their cars.
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                                #30
                                Here is their long term plan

                                1) people who buy $120 k boats will buy another in 5 years
                                2) Warratee said boat and electronics for 5 years
                                3) sell new boat to same people at 5 yrs (*more likely to sell since older screens might mean unreliable screens. )
                                4) Now 5 yr old boat goes to someone else. Everything works well for another 5 yrs then screens go out
                                5) now 100% dependent on aftermarket screen industry which will likely be thriving since nobody wants to throw away a 10yr old boat

                                In short...I don't think any boat company cares what their screens are doing in 10-15 yrs

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