06 22ve vs 06 Sanger v215

[WillyFire]

Hi everybody. I'm getting close to hopefully buying a new to us V-drive. As of right now I have the option to buy 1 of these 2 boats. A member here has been helping me in my search for awhile with not only tige boats but all the boats I have asked him about and he has been a huge help. So big Thanks. But thought id ask I know most are tige owners here but thought why not see what everyone's thoughts are. One main thing would be which will have better resale value whenever that time comes to upgrade.

-06 Sanger 215v (mid 300 hours) wake edition and 6.2 scorpion plus has all the ballasts and comes with 2 extra bags in the rear. Basically need to do nothing to it and its exactly at our budget.

-06 22ve (under 200 hours) no ballasts and needs a few things but nothing to major probably 1-2k tires, trailer and cosmetic. (hopefully $2000 more then the Sanger waiting for tonight's reply from his wife) (:

So is a tige that needs some things and priced more really worth more then the Sanger that's ready to go?

Thanks

[chpthril]

if you are looking to make a surf machine, then a pre-2009 without ballast, is a HUGE plus. The stock ballast option in 06 is no where NEAR enough and the stock ballast config is real tough to add to. Way better off starting from scratch. Extra sacs supplied by the PO, doesnt necessarily surf ready. Also, most people get tired of manually filling sacs after one season. No ballast means you can plumb it in from the start. its also means you can go with the largest sac available.

IMO, I think the Tige is a little larger, heavier, wider and deeper free board.

[WillyFire]

Not really looking for a surf machine but something that we can start with. Since the tige is over budget I'm pretty sure I won't be able to be adding much for ballasts other then some cheap bags to get us started. It will be a multi use boat and I'm fine with what both are capable of doing from what I've read but don't have experience with either.

[bsreid]

Ok so you’re looking for your surf boat, you grow into it, add some more ballast over the years and get decent at surfing. Eventually you will want something better, with the 22ve you will be able to go a lot further and really grow with the wave. The ve boats were one of the best surf boats for those years.

Like said above, in the long run you will be much better off starting with no ballast and adding your own

[WillyFire]

Ok thanks. Ya the tige without ballasts is good for long term but for short term since I'm over budget it has made the decision hard with the Sanger being all set ready to go and cheaper. Unfortunately right now it's not looking good to test drive the tige and they both are not close to me.

[bsreid]

Sometimes it’s good to shop around a bit too. Nobody said you have to buy local

[WillyFire]

Ya ive been shopping around within 20 hour drive each way of me for about 6 weeks now so have a good idea what's out there. Have been patient but also at the point where I'm ready to buy.

[freeheel4life]

If you haven't sat in both boats I would. As Mike stated the freeboard is quite different on these two boats. If you plan on having little ones in the boat especially. To me the Sanger feels like a a much older ski boat where as the Tige will feel like a newer wakeboard. There's also lots of other considerations as well. To me service records, sold tower, add one done correctly if stereo, lights and other things have been added. Does Sanger have perfect pass?? I've also never surfed a Sanger but I believe there's a lot less deadrise to it's hull. From what I've seen from the Sanger in question the real decider is how much slalom skiing you want to do.

[WillyFire]

Sanger has perfect pass ya. Have you been in both to compare the freeboard sitting inside? The tige is 5 hours away and Sanger 7 the same direction so my plan was to look at both if I could In he same day. I do like to slalom but I'm really only recreational at best. Tried to ski most times when we were out doing water sports this summer but I also didn't have the surf option. I think a bigger wake for slalom I'll be fine with and pretty sure once surfing is added to our list of things my skiing will go down even more. My boy learned to ski this year and could ski for hours each day if we let him.

[freeheel4life]

I work as a mechanic/technician (whatever you want to call us) so see boats from literally every manufacturer. About the only thing that doesn't come thru our shop is brand new MB, Nautiques, and Malibu, see some stuff thats 2013ish(stuff coming out of warranty and people start using shop other than purchasing dealer) and more as you get older. Our shop used to be a Sanger dealer so we see a lot of boats that were sold in the past. I've had a Sanger 215 out after doing an engine swap. Didn't get to weight it and surf just put her thru her paces with customer before delivery. I personally wouldn't purchase either without a lake trip, but it's getting late in the season for that. Unless you are in a warmer climate. Definitely sit in both and you WILL feel and see the difference in freeboard. To me one feels like you are about to fall out and they other feels like you are riding in it, but opinions are like....well you know.

[Surf406]

Pm me with what your thinkn budget wise and I'll be glad to help you in every way I can.

[WillyFire]

Thanks for the input. I was under the impression that the 215 wasn't that bad it's the 210 that feels really low. I guess the only way to tell is to get in and toich/feel both. If they weren't so far I probably wouldn't be asking all these questions and just go but when I go my plan is to go to come home with one so trying to be as prepared as possible.
Sanger owners seem pretty vocal about their boats feeling more solid all around and in rough water. Will I find that or is that just their opinion.

[bsreid]

I’m sure they build a solid boat and handle the water good. But think of it this way, what’s going to handle big rough water better, a very shallow boat or a well built deep one. I’m sure you can answer that for yourself