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Wonder how the goofy side is.Comment
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I wouldn't doubt if it's just as good or betterOriginally posted by CarFanatic View Post
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Hi yall.... give me 1 min.. Im putting together some stuff for ya.Germaine Marine
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WHoot whootComment
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Uh it's been longer then a minutr
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We are all waiting anxiously.........
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This is going to be a lengthy post.....
First of all, sorry about my absence from the forum the last few weeks, work, life and this boat obsession turned career has really put much more on my plate then I had ever dreamed of taking on. With that being said, let me weigh in on a few things I have read on this thread.... and give you my opinion for whatever its worth...
First, lets talk about taps 3 and AVX or VX. In order to debate this accurately you have to put in perspective the weight element when debating taps3 vs AVX or VX for that matter. It is going to take much more weight in a surf system boat to yield the same displacement as a listed boat and we need to remember that when talking about the two. The german and I have spent hours talking with various system engineers etc about the differences between the two and why such an increase is needed when going the system route. There is a science too it and the guy that the German turned me onto when he was figuring it out was ryan at GSA. I dont know of another guy that knows as much about that area as him.
AVX/Vx are great systems, let me start off with that. They make a dynamite listed wave, and they do it at a level of efficiency that no surf system will ever touch. They kill in that category as well as being a superior shallow water surfing boat and that is about the end of its reign. In my opinion when you get enough weight in a taps 3 surf system boat, this system will outperform its counterpart, plain and simple in almost every category. Tige knew it , the industry knows it and its why no one is going that direction anymore. Now.. you slap a suck gate onto a VX or AVX boat and I think you have a different argument. As for pictures I am with Dakota on this one. Pictures dont mean a darn thing..... Ask the pros what they want and they will all tell you its a long, knee high big push wave that usually isnt the prettiest. Why? Because its the wave that allows you to do the most on it. Height (to a point) or aesthetically pleasing shape has no barring. That description of a wave...is a surf system style wave for the most part. Again, just my .02 take it for what its worth which isnt much
Now lets get to the Rzx2. I think we all need to remember that Tige introduced the Rzx2 as a cross over boat, its sole purpose was to be able to do certain things the Rzx3 couldnt yet still hang somewhat close with its big sister in the surf category. I think they succeeded in what they set out for, no doubt about it. This design was really for the family that wanted a killer surf boat but also a boat that could be emptied of weight and ski just about as good as anything else in the line. Its not a slalom boat but it does it better then every big boat I have been in recently including my own Z3.
The rzx2 out of the box surfs better then the 3 IMO and for 75% of the industry who wont want to get PNP or lead its a win. Push buttons out of the box with just the underfloor and its going to be really good and you dont need a thing. Now, this boat is not as easy to set up once you start adding weight. The 3 being wider at the bottom is much more user freindly when you start to get it heavy, the 2 is much more sensitive... this specific boat regardless of the limited time I have been in it, has had me at my wits end. From the new strut angle which I think is pushing the boat through the water at a different angle based on throttle input, to the reduction of factory bow weight it has required a little bit more time to get a baseline to work with.
This boat can surf...its deceptively long and tall especially when sitting in the boat, then you get back behind it and you get a grasp of the thickness and power of the wave. The pocket is different then the Z3 and its mostly different in the power felt at your feet especially in the rear section of the wave. I had my dad who is 6'1 today ride, I pushed him back into the curl of the wave and what surprised me was the amount of push it had to keep him steady with one leg completely hooked in the curl of the wave. The back end power was such that he could rock forward and blast out of it. Its solid, smooth and has a really nice transition without being overly steep which is normally found with a taller wave. My most favorite part of the boat today was the ability to push into the high 11.8-12.5 mph range and not lose any height. All it did was stretch things out a bit and make the wave concrete hard. All good things.
I still want a ton more time in this specific boat with the hardware changes I made, but today was really promising.......A few more things to work out but all in all really solid.
No Lead today in the rear, just pnp and lead in the bow. Ill throw out my settings once I have them figured, I just need a little more time behind this specific one. Here are some photos, albeit not great ones from today....
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Its the best side by a long shot.....Originally posted by CarFanatic View PostGermaine Marine
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Originally posted by CarFanatic View Post
Everyone's preference is their own.....so I cant hold that against you this is what a z3 with taps 3 is doing when correctly set up. Keep in mind this was before we got nuts with the weight....
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Glad to hear the goofy wave rocks better!
Sounds like for pure surf you'd still go rzx3??Comment
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I'm not saying it's a bad wave. It has a lot of push. I'm just saying for me going from my set up to a taps 3 z3 doesn't make sense.Originally posted by elevatedconcept View PostEveryone's preference is their own.....so I cant hold that against you this is what a z3 with taps 3 is doing when correctly set up. Keep in mind this was before we got nuts with the weight....
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I don't think so but not sure yet, ask my a few days ago when I had about given up and I would have said yes, now not so sure.Originally posted by CarFanatic View Post
I haven't loaded this boat down yet. Just some lead in the bow that I think it needs even just for cruising and pnp in the rear. Today was a big jump forward
Everyone I know has had a hard time with length and it's been tied to those who have gone to the 2-1. Today I pushed into the 20 foot plus range... let me put some marginal weight to it, atleast get the swimstep underwater a little and I'll re assess. I think it's the best wave in a boat I have owned so far......
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What was your setup when this photo was taken?Originally posted by elevatedconcept View PostEveryone's preference is their own.....so I cant hold that against you this is what a z3 with taps 3 is doing when correctly set up. Keep in mind this was before we got nuts with the weight....
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