'17 Z3 on the way

[chpthril]

thats great for most people, but what if you change stuff up, or want to tweak for you. your sol???

Not SOL at all, just a little different with DSP technology

[chpthril]

Guess I'll have to drop another couple of G's to get new amps

Why, just have them tuned to your likely

and have a sealed box built

Up to you, but I dont care for an IB woofer in a small sealed enclosure. gets a peaky and one note wonder'ish.

[CarFanatic]

I'm assuming to tune them you have to buy some tool in order to do it.

[freeheel4life]

The "tool" is just a little square that you plug into amp. Press button and tune is loaded. I imagine wetsounds is going to keep the software to do it via laptop to themselves. Who knows though. Money talks. Met the owner of wetsounds while traveling thru DFW last year and got to pick his brain for over an hour. I assure you he's no pencil pushing CEO so I imagine there's a reason for the tuning they've done.

[majestic]

The "tool" is just a little square that you plug into amp. Press button and tune is loaded. I imagine wetsounds is going to keep the software to do it via laptop to themselves. Who knows though. Money talks. Met the owner of wetsounds while traveling thru DFW last year and got to pick his brain for over an hour. I assure you he's no pencil pushing CEO so I imagine there's a reason for the tuning they've done.

I see it as a couple things. The boats were previously tuned by the factory and were optimized for that tuners set of ears. Then the end user would screw with it an blow out speakers then comes the warranty claims. So now you have standard tunes for each boat and the end user has less chance of having blown speakers and reducing warranty claims. Mine sounds fairly good this far for a stock system. My Exile system in my past boat would kill this factory set up, but it had way more power.

[chpthril]

My Exile system in my past boat would kill this factory set up, but it had way more power.

Just spit my Jack all over my laptop at this one, LOL!

[majestic]

Just spit my Jack all over my laptop at this one, LOL!

Yeah what would I know I only owned both boats. Climb back in your jack hole

[chpthril]

Yeah what would I know I only owned both boats. Climb back in your jack hole

yeah what would i know i only have product knowledge of both audio brands. Feel free substantiate your claim. Your opinion of how each boat sounds, is not what I will debate. However, I would love to hear about the way more power. This cannot be opinion, but only fact or fiction. If true, then no issue backing up.

[majestic]

yeah what would i know i only have product knowledge of both audio brands. Feel free substantiate your claim. Your opinion of how each boat sounds, is not what I will debate. However, I would love to hear about the way more power. This cannot be opinion, but only fact or fiction. If true, then no issue backing up.

It's very simple the previous system had more power because it had 2 amps powering 6 inboats and a ported sub rather than one amp powering 6 inboats and a free air sub. My comparison was the two boats as they are not meant for an apples to apples comparison to turn into a debate. My boat will likely stay all Wetsounds because I like the integration of the systems I wish I never made that Exile comment now,but I thought we were past this crap 7 years later?. Continue to be a good resource for the forum members. My apologies for the jack hole comment, but Jesus man get over your Exile bitterness.

Sorry to everyone for the distraction from this thread.

[hcooperrn]

So, back on track, a few new symptoms after playing with it some more.

When playing the satellite radio, I can adjust the output level through the controller. At anything above 1/2, the sound is incredibly distorted, even at a volume of 10. If I set the output at 1/3, it sounds pretty normal from quiet through loud. I'm going through the auxiliary line input.

Also, I noticed that the cutout is much worse in quieter songs. If the song has low spots, it will cut out there, and come back when the voice or music picks back up. Think of an acoustic song that has natural pauses - lots of cutout. Compare that to a driving rock song that doesn't let up, minimal cutout.

Also watched the amp temp - surface temp got up to about 110* after about 15min of playing and peaked there with the hatch open.


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[chpthril]

Maj,

Bitterness gone, but not the distaste for false or misleading info, whether accidental or intentional.

So lets break it down:

your old 1500.1 and 2 ohm 12" woofer. Ill give the 12" the edge over a 10 any day. Its not a brand thing, but a size thing. Everyone know a larger woofer has the advantage. 2nd, Ported will always trump a sealed or IB 3rd, the xi12 was a dang good sounding woofer. However, your "1500" watt amp was actually about 750W rms, half of what exile claimed it to be. This is only 150W rms more than the 600W rms from the Wet Sounds Syn-DX6. That 150 would not make a difference in output. If I put a 12" wet sounds woofer in a ported enclosure, there would not be a difference on output. So, here there is not power difference, but a difference in woofer size and enclosure type.

The harpoon running 3 pair of 4 ohm pods @ 1.33 ohm. your post claimed 1300W rms. Well, the 2 ohm output of the harpoon was less then 800W rms. it was not stable lower than 2 ohm, so that 1300W rms was pulled out of someones jack hole , likely not even 1000, but again, the amp was not stable @ 1.33. This would be evident by the cooling amp mounted above it. The Wet Sounds Syn-DX2 has about the same 2 ohm usable wattage at the harpoon. Two pair of rev-8 is more efficient and has more surface are then your 3 pair of 6.5" speakers. This equals more output, regardless of any speculated output from the harpoon @ 1.33 ohm dialed back to prevent protect mode due to the low impedance. In the end, the larger 8" or 10" will have greater output due to size, as well as better balance. More smooth. With the exile hybrid, 4 tweeters and 2 horns just might sound louder due to the lack of mid-bass to balance it out.

Now to the in-boats. Last I knew, you ran 3 pair 6.5 on a single 800.4. That amp was about 500W rms with all 4 chnl @ 2 ohm, now where near it claimed spec. About 90W rms to a pair @ 4 ohm and about 65W rms to each with a pair per chnl @ 2 ohm. Thats less than the 100W rms each in-boat is receiving from the wet Sounds Syn-DX6.

So in summery:

your exile system had less wattage to the in-boats

Yes, more wattage to the woofer, but not enough to make an audible difference if the woofer and alignment was the same. it take 2x the wattage to hear the difference and 10X to be twice as loud.

On paper, the tower setup may have more wattage, but since the exile amp was running out of its safe zone and at an impedance it was never tested at, the guessed at wattage cannot be counted upon. Even then, the speaker size difference between your 6.5 and 8" and 10" wet sounds offerings would have negated that slight wattage difference between the harpoon @ 1.33 and the Syn-DX2 @ 2 ohm. As noted earlier, its takes 2x the wattage to be heard.

Maj, I dont fault you, but rather the snake oil salesman, brian. Sorry to see you still carrying his water.

Not questioning your opinion of how either system sounded. Thats opinion. However, I do take issue with the more power claim, to which I have addressed.

[freeheel4life]

Hooper and NAstleford- I would be curious to see if you could download some test tones and play thru your phone first via aux cord and/or Bluetooth then also from a headphone to RCA directly to amp to see if you had any changes. Would eliminate if it's a bad input to amp or amp itself.
Not the greatest stereo guy but if you had a multimeter I believe you could switch it over to AC and connect to outputs at amp and watch if voltage is high then drops out it's clipping. Gain problem. I'm sure I'm way off as again I'm better at slinging wrenches than I am with stereos, but these may be some steps to at least eliminate variables from the equation.

[CarFanatic]

I sure hope they make a way for people to tune them. I'm an ex car audio guy my self and would prefer to tweak my own set up

[NAstleford]

Hooper and NAstleford- I would be curious to see if you could download some test tones and play thru your phone first via aux cord and/or Bluetooth then also from a headphone to RCA directly to amp to see if you had any changes. Would eliminate if it's a bad input to amp or amp itself.
Not the greatest stereo guy but if you had a multimeter I believe you could switch it over to AC and connect to outputs at amp and watch if voltage is high then drops out it's clipping. Gain problem. I'm sure I'm way off as again I'm better at slinging wrenches than I am with stereos, but these may be some steps to at least eliminate variables from the equation.

Am going to have to play with it a little more to be see if it's no matter the connection or if it's only bluetooth connection that does it. Haven't connected any other way yet. This may help to narrow down what is going on.
We did have some horrible, horrible hissing noise start coming out of just the 2 speakers in the bow when driving around. Had to turn the boat completely off to get it to stop. Hoping that was just some random fluke thing and won't happen again.

[chpthril]

I sure hope they make a way for people to tune them. I'm an ex car audio guy my self and would prefer to tweak my own set up

First, these amps are tunable. The "what" can be tuned hasnt changed, but rather the "how" about it. Granted, DSP is way deeper than traditional gain and a cross over filter and freq point. These setting are set exactly, not my ear. Time alignment and phase, just to scratch the surface.

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