My design for a TAPS3-VX

[Chugh2o]

This looks like your on to something! Although if you wanted to change sides it wouldn't work you would have to have two or else the gate would have the wrong angle


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[Germaine Marine]

My concern is that the upward lift will counteract the the boat in the rear ballast wise. The suck gates need a significant amount of ballast evenly weighted to really crank out. So Im wondering what will happen here. I am tuned in man.... cant wait to see what happens.

[dakota4ce]

Slappers on MBs have a bit of downward angle on them, sort of a combo between what you show here and a straight up paddle. They work really really well. I think the downward vector of the diversion of water flow probably has a beneficial effect. Some trial and error will reveal!

[Chugh2o]

When I go out with a buddy next I might try angling the suck gate down and see what happens


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[bsreid]

Here's what I mentioned months back about surf gate with a little angle on the bottom to help the water go the right way. IMG_3535.JPG

[JohnnieMo]

Here's what I mentioned months back about surf gate with a little angle on the bottom to help the water go the right way. [ATTACH]46376[/ATTACH]

Beautiful Design. What were the results?

[bsreid]

The results were amazing. Not a tige, but here's a link https://comoxvalley.craigslist.ca/bo...207441115.html

[JohnnieMo]

Okay... So major fail. The new surf ramp won't stay connected over 6mph. I somewhat expected this. The force is applied too far forward of the suction cup. I have an alternate design which might work but I will have to wait for another week. No tools here.....

[bsreid]

Ok so Johnnie, a friend of mine might be on to something. It’s a similer like wing design that you came up with except it sunk down the port side and created this monster of a wave on the goody stb side. I know, I know, it makes no sense whatsoever but he was amazed and now I just need to get out and see it in action.

[Chugh2o]

Ok so Johnnie, a friend of mine might be on to something. It’s a similer like wing design that you came up with except it sunk down the port side and created this monster of a wave on the goody stb side. I know, I know, it makes no sense whatsoever but he was amazed and now I just need to get out and see it in action.

So what is this wing look like? Angles, orientation, etc? Maybe some pictures?! Sounds very interesting!


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[JohnnieMo]

Ok so Johnnie, a friend of mine might be on to something. It’s a similer like wing design that you came up with except it sunk down the port side and created this monster of a wave on the goody stb side. I know, I know, it makes no sense whatsoever but he was amazed and now I just need to get out and see it in action.

You are correct in that it makes no sense. I want to see some pics and video!

I have another video edit to post tonight. I got to compare a Mission Delta to my Suck Gate. I also tried a new tab. Stay tuned!

[bsreid]

So basically the tab is across the suc gate on a 45* angle, mounted to the side of the boat. I’ll grab try and get out with him tomorrow and see it in action. The guy who made this is a believer that the VX is useless in these scenarios.

[JohnnieMo]

So here is my most recent installment. I had access to a Mission Delta so I tested it against my original home made suck gate. I also tested the old Centurion tab design. Results are below.

https://youtu.be/PBEyHpN_7Lw

Firstly, the Mission Delta and suck gate very close in result. I'd say the home made design was slightly better. If you run the video and place your mouse point on the peak of the wave, then put your fingers on the horizon, you can assess how it changes. The Centurion tab looks far smaller buts its actually because this large tab forces the bow down too much.

I tried surfing all three waves and the Centurion tab was un-surfable.

I am prepared to say that Adding a tab and keeping the Vx is not possible. So the original idea I had on page 1 just doesn't work. The Vx itself dampens the wave to the max possible. Any more dampening through a tab design just makes the wave smaller. The shape of the tab only affects the shape of the wave (as can be seen in my other two videos) Since the wave is too small, none of that matters.

So I'm left with two options:

1) Create a formal gate design. The gate design works... it's been proven on every brand. With the Vx you get a nice clean wave with a good peak.

2) Ditch the Vx and go with a TAP3 retrofit. Still not entirely sure this is possible, however it's now in the running. My first surf on a RZX2 with TAPS3 was very underwhelming. I found it inferior to my video above. However I'm not about to blame the TAPS3 for that... I think setup had a lot to do with it. I'd love to test a Z1 with TAPS3 before I make any final decision.

[bsreid]

Personally I would ditch the VX and try some more of these gates or go with taps 3. The automated system is awesome.

With your suck ramp I would try flipping the ramp so it’s angled the other way and making it be placed over top of the suc gate so it’s not as likely to fall off.

[JohnnieMo]

Personally I would ditch the VX and try some more of these gates or go with taps 3. The automated system is awesome.

With your suck ramp I would try flipping the ramp so it’s angled the other way and making it be placed over top of the suc gate so it’s not as likely to fall off.

If you look at my YouTube channel you can see I did some testing with no Vx last year and was very disappointed. That said no Vx and TAPS3 is great! So there is obviously a way to make it work.

FWIW all my tabs and gates are attached to the Vx so removing it would mean actually drilling holes.

I have a new design on the suck ramp pending. Hopefully testing it Friday.