Got the new Z3 on the water for the first time today. Our boat was an early build 2015 that still has the hard tanks under the floor. It was retrofitted with Taps 3 and this is our first chance to play with it. My goal is to try to answer the questions I've seen come across the forum and Facebook about Taps 3. I've done some very amateur commentary about our voyage today in the following videos and hope to keep the updates coming all summer as we learn what taps 3 can do. Apologies about the garbage vertical iPhone video.
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Originally posted by UNSTUCK View PostLooks like the boat was listed over quite a bit. Was that the intent or does the taps 3 tab force it over?
Originally posted by Booms View PostLooks nice. Did the boat have the AVX on it prior to you retro fitting the TAPS 3? What was the cost of the retro fit?
Originally posted by Greeko View PostLooks rather small...My AVX Z3 throws a much larger wave...
I don't anticipate swapping out for bigger bags this year. I need more time to play with it than I had as well. I'll get it dialed in.
Not sure if the setup with my boat having the hard tanks still will be different than the later builds without.
Eventually I'll probably get the W005's since the plumbing will match my W004's. The W005' will get me to the stock Surf XL weight in the back.
Ill get some more video this weekend hopefully. I have a 450 free bag I can fill and put on the floor too...... I'll try this as well and report back. Thanks for the input fellas.
Looking forward to playing with it and dialing it in. Really like out new boat.
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Eventually I'll probably get the W005's since the plumbing will match my W004's. The W005' will get me to the stock Surf XL weight in the backMikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And More
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Originally posted by Z3CO23 View PostThe boat does noticeably list more to starboard than it does to port. Both rear bags were filled all the way on both sides. The taps 3 does force the boat over. It was just me and the wife and I was driving.
The boat was originally ordered by the dealer without AVX or Taps 3..... to my knowledge. I don't know what the exact number is, not sure without the numbers sheet in front of me. Taps 3 system was factory priced though.
AVX is awesome for sure. I think it is smaller than the typical Surf XL taps 3 Z3. I am running with 400lbs total less weight in the rear right now than Stock XL. My W004 bags are only 750 full and the 250 hard tank gives me 1000 lbs per side with leaves me short 200 per side. The bow was totally full too...... on future testing I'm gonna test it at 75% 50% and 25%
I don't anticipate swapping out for bigger bags this year. I need more time to play with it than I had as well. I'll get it dialed in.
Not sure if the setup with my boat having the hard tanks still will be different than the later builds without.
Eventually I'll probably get the W005's since the plumbing will match my W004's. The W005' will get me to the stock Surf XL weight in the back.
Ill get some more video this weekend hopefully. I have a 450 free bag I can fill and put on the floor too...... I'll try this as well and report back. Thanks for the input fellas.
Looking forward to playing with it and dialing it in. Really like out new boat.
Ah, I see. Makes sense now. I think the 400 is making a noticeable difference. Looks good still though. I ordered 300lbs of lead and run 100-150 in each corner under the bags. It's excellent!Germaine Marine
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Originally posted by Z3CO23 View PostThe boat does noticeably list more to starboard than it does to port. Both rear bags were filled all the way on both sides. The taps 3 does force the boat over. It was just me and the wife and I was driving.
The boat was originally ordered by the dealer without AVX or Taps 3..... to my knowledge. I don't know what the exact number is, not sure without the numbers sheet in front of me. Taps 3 system was factory priced though.
AVX is awesome for sure. I think it is smaller than the typical Surf XL taps 3 Z3. I am running with 400lbs total less weight in the rear right now than Stock XL. My W004 bags are only 750 full and the 250 hard tank gives me 1000 lbs per side with leaves me short 200 per side. The bow was totally full too...... on future testing I'm gonna test it at 75% 50% and 25%
I don't anticipate swapping out for bigger bags this year. I need more time to play with it than I had as well. I'll get it dialed in.
Not sure if the setup with my boat having the hard tanks still will be different than the later builds without.
Eventually I'll probably get the W005's since the plumbing will match my W004's. The W005' will get me to the stock Surf XL weight in the back.
Ill get some more video this weekend hopefully. I have a 450 free bag I can fill and put on the floor too...... I'll try this as well and report back. Thanks for the input fellas.
Looking forward to playing with it and dialing it in. Really like out new boat.
They are fantastic boats. Trust me you will appreciate the extra weight, chpthril has some great custom bags... If you don't have the dough for it just get an 1100 on the floor. Makes a HUGE difference@!
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Originally posted by Greeko View PostThey are fantastic boats. Trust me you will appreciate the extra weight, chpthril has some great custom bags... If you don't have the dough for it just get an 1100 on the floor. Makes a HUGE difference@!
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I would ask Matt Garcia to change the title of the thread. 'TAPS 3 Settings for Z3' might be more appropriate. I am pretty confident that the ideal settings for Taps 3 for a Z3 will be different than they are for an RZX and so on. Just food for thought.
It has always killed me over the years when someone asks for ballast advice and guys with entirely different hulls start chiming in with useless information for the OP.Be excellent to one another.
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Got back out this weekend for some more testing with the Z3. Brought the go pro with me this time.......
Setting were as follows: 2000 lbs rear (1000 each side) and 30% in each front bag (330 lbs total). Taps at 4, Taps 3 at 5. Speed 10.8
I got to the front ballast total for my setup by using a ratio of front to back weight from Tige's recommendation for Surf XL of 100% rear and 35% front. So Surf XL would be 2400 lbs rear (1200 each side) and 35% each bag up front (385 lbs total). Taps at 4, Taps 3 at 4. Speed 10.8
I set up all my timers to the closest 15 second increment. Used my phone to time fill and empty times on each bag and then changed the times in the TT.
Here is the wave with the above setup:
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Starboard
As you guys know, I am 400 lbs short in the rear so I wanted to simulate an extra 400 lbs so I filled a floor bag I had. Weight wasn't all the way back like I wanted but I got more weight in the boat.
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Port with 450 Filled:
Shape and size changes but I could not get that lip running through the wake to go away.
Starboard:
I wanted to do all this testing with level weight in the back. I think it's pretty close to dialed. Really happy with the starboard wave. I can live with port but it can definitely get better. Might have to bleed off some starboard weight or play with the front ballast more. Maybe more surf side weight.
The port side definitely does not roll over as nice as the starboard side does. This could be function of my wife sitting port and my fat arse driving......
Undecided on upgrading rear bags still.
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