2015 Z3 for sale cheap?

[Stingreye]

I think the wave system waves are different beasts. If you have been riding a listed wave, at first the surf system waves feel wrong. They are usually more rounded (rampy) and have push in different spots. It seems like you need to have a rail dug in less than a listed wave.

I find the couple surf gate style boats I have ridden that skim style tricks (360s) are easier and airs are harder. It also seems like it takes more weight to get a good wave.

For moose, the Vx or and is likely preferable because the extra drag of surf systems will be murder at elevation of Tahoe. I couldn't believe how much it affected the power on my boat. Maybe the Raptor can do it but I would want to Demo with all the weight prior to trying TAPS3, Go surf Assist, surf gate, NSS, etc etc.

[jslayde1]

Ive had both boats and I can assure you the wave on my 16 is as good as my 15 with AVX.. Just took me a while to figure it out...

Interesting - you are the first I have heard say that after owning an AVX boat. I'm sure the '16 is better than the '15 and some tweeks could make what I rode better...all I know is the stock Taps3 we rode (with only two adults in the boat) did not compare really to the AVX.

I would love to see some pics as well - you know, we all love pics!

The only part in which my AVX system excelled was in shallow water. 6-8 feet who gave a **** it pumped out a monster. This system just doesent have that shinning trait, but the versatility and ease make it more valuable for me and my family.

I have heard that as well, but I don't have any experience with it in the shallows in my boat yet. I know Ragboy was very impressed with how it performed in the shallows at Angelo's Wake The Desert last year - which I did ride it down there and did not notice any difference compared to deeper water.

I completely agree with the value per family - all my family so far is regular. And until my kids start doing transfer tricks, the switching sides does not hold any value to us.

[Greeko]

I love my 15 Z3 with AVX. The Z3 performs better with the AVX over the Taps 3 imo. The RZX..thats a taps3 boat for sure!

It seems like a decent deal. The tower of power is at least a 2-3k option.

I would pay no more than 75 shipped.. You need to spend 2-3k to touch up the audio system. another 1200-1500 to change out the rear bags... So all in all your looking at 80k for that used boat. How much more is a new one from a dealer?... save yourself a couple here and couple there..then the dealer seems a bit s..l..o..w..e..r to do any warranty or "freebie" work... just food for thought.

[MooseX]

I'm considering financing a good low hours boat. bargain hunting is gettin' me down..I don't want to look ALL SUMMER

I was at the CENTURION dealer in Sacramento today. Drooling over the new Ri237's. Talk about freeboard..holy crap those boats are deep

Things I love about it:

*22 degree dead rise DEEP V. A true deep vee that will spank rough water. It must displace a sh*tload of water when loaded down

*RAMFILL (manly aargh). 5100 lbs. filled in less than a minute placed anywhere you want.

*CATS adjustable midships' directional. Not sure how well this works but it's sounds cool lol

*Has QUICK SURF gates. They resemble Taps 3 plates as well as their angles. Sales guys says the wave is real good but some times he runs his Ri237 as a listed boat. Interesting...you can choose between the 2 wave makers..I watched some videos online. BoardCo has a cool youtube vid. Port looks great..Starboard pretty good too

*Factory is about 2 hours from my place.

Things I don't like:

Price tag is right up there in RZX territory...ie BIG. Sales guy says they could cut me alot of slack on a demo boat though...hmm

[MooseX]

[MooseX]

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[MooseX]

Oh yeah if you look up front those are serious headlights recessed on the deck

tower bugs me. it's way too wide..blocks your view to the sides346450.jpg

I just designed my own Ri237 on their website. Now all I have to do is get 115 grand together

[Germaine Marine]

Interesting - you are the first I have heard say that after owning an AVX boat. I'm sure the '16 is better than the '15 and some tweeks could make what I rode better...all I know is the stock Taps3 we rode (with only two adults in the boat) did not compare really to the AVX.

I would love to see some pics as well - you know, we all love pics!



I have heard that as well, but I don't have any experience with it in the shallows in my boat yet. I know Ragboy was very impressed with how it performed in the shallows at Angelo's Wake The Desert last year - which I did ride it down there and did not notice any difference compared to deeper water.

I completely agree with the value per family - all my family so far is regular. And until my kids start doing transfer tricks, the switching sides does not hold any value to us.

If you are in CA, I won't take pictures I'll take you out. Again I have had both boats, believe me or don't it's up to you. I was an Avx die hard, but I can tell you with certainty that a little fine tuning, for us it was pushing it over 4-5 degrees just like the guys in Texas said and the wAve has that all famous avx shape. Steep up front and long.

[Germaine Marine]

I think the wave system waves are different beasts. If you have been riding a listed wave, at first the surf system waves feel wrong. They are usually more rounded (rampy) and have push in different spots. It seems like you need to have a rail dug in less than a listed wave.

I find the couple surf gate style boats I have ridden that skim style tricks (360s) are easier and airs are harder. It also seems like it takes more weight to get a good wave.

For moose, the Vx or and is likely preferable because the extra drag of surf systems will be murder at elevation of Tahoe. I couldn't believe how much it affected the power on my boat. Maybe the Raptor can do it but I would want to Demo with all the weight prior to trying TAPS3, Go surf Assist, surf gate, NSS, etc etc.

Again, all true unless you due what Tige suggests after hours of testing, which is....

List it 4-5 if you want a steeper front section for airs etc, if you want it mellow ride it even.

I push mine over and hand on a bible the wave is extremely comparable.... I have a lead sac on each rear wall and the wave is as good as my avx with the ability to switch side to side.


Now, shallow water... It's avx hands down and not close....

With how much I'm learning with each trip, tweaking I doubt I have even reached the potential of what the boat can do...

[jslayde1]

If you are in CA, I won't take pictures I'll take you out. Again I have had both boats, believe me or don't it's up to you. I was an Avx die hard, but I can tell you with certainty that a little fine tuning, for us it was pushing it over 4-5 degrees just like the guys in Texas said and the wAve has that all famous avx shape. Steep up front and long.

I would love to take you up on that offer! Nah, I believe you - its just this is the first of I've heard this and my experience with it was different. We would still love to see some pics though...

[007]

Since we've completely digressed from the OP's topic, are you saying you make the same wave as AVX with a TAPS's 3 boat just by adding a lead sac on each outer wall?

Are you running with even ballast at rest?

Other threads I am reading lead me to believe Z3 TAPS3 owners are listing their boats anyway to push out the best wave possible, which leads to the questions:
1. "How does the quick switch work if the boat is not weighted evenly?" and
2. "If you are listing the boat anyway, how much time do you really save switching sides for goofy and standard riders if you have to pump anyway?"

Not bashing, trashing or calling BS, just an AVX owner wanting to understand the difference in the 2 systems' performance if you are not doing the quick switch system and riding both sides of the wave on the same run.

Again, all true unless you due what Tige suggests after hours of testing, which is....

List it 4-5 if you want a steeper front section for airs etc, if you want it mellow ride it even.

I push mine over and hand on a bible the wave is extremely comparable.... I have a lead sac on each rear wall and the wave is as good as my avx with the ability to switch side to side.


Now, shallow water... It's avx hands down and not close....

With how much I'm learning with each trip, tweaking I doubt I have even reached the potential of what the boat can do...

[Germaine Marine]

Since we've completely digressed from the OP's topic, are you saying you make the same wave as AVX with a TAPS's 3 boat just by adding a lead sac on each outer wall?

Are you running with even ballast at rest?

Other threads I am reading lead me to believe Z3 TAPS3 owners are listing their boats anyway to push out the best wave possible, which leads to the questions:
1. "How does the quick switch work if the boat is not weighted evenly?" and
2. "If you are listing the boat anyway, how much time do you really save switching sides for goofy and standard riders if you have to pump anyway?"

Not bashing, trashing or calling BS, just an AVX owner wanting to understand the difference in the 2 systems' performance if you are not doing the quick switch system and riding both sides of the wave on the same run.

Yes, by listing the boat over 4-5 degrees, and running a lead sac on each outer wall In my opinion I am making a comparable wave with this system.

1. When I am pushing the boat over I am not quickly going side to side. I could experiment with pumping water out during the run and then switching but I have not done that yet. This is merely how I am building the biggest wave possible on one side.

2. You are saving a little time, but to me it isent about the system being able to do all of it perfectly its merely about the system being able to DO IT ALL in the first place.

If I want a comp wave similar to the AVX, i push it over and I dont go side to side...

If I want an awesome wave thats great in its own right but less steep up front etc, I weight it close to even and I go side to side to my hearts content.

Its the ability to do either which is what works for me..... The whispers making the rounds are that the system is incapable of building a similar wave, and my point simply is that from my experience that just isnt the case...

I will experiment next month with pumping some water in and out during the run and posting some videos with times it takes to do each.... good homework project...

[MooseX]

pics of the boat in question. turns out it was a demo boat. bare bones Z3

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[Germaine Marine]

Looks like a nice nice boat.....

They are asking what again? 68K?

[chpthril]

Is that a FL Tige dealer.