Need advice, Ronix or Tige's fault?

[Robmc9]

Just bought a brand new Ronix Carbon Skim last week (retail is $950 can) and after the 1st day of riding, only road 3 times, I had a quick look over the board at the end of the day and noticed the board had gotten 2 gauges on the edges. So my 1st thought was who could of dropped the board during the day without me noticing as I rode it once and 2 other's rode it once as well but couldn't come up with a single thought of it being dropped. Then 2 days later I went to take it out of my rack (Tige bungee rack on my 2014 RZ2) and noticed another gauge in the edge but this time it was in the exact same spot the bungee cord was in. So what I've now realized is the bungee cord has now caused these dents in the board as you can actually see the pattern of the cord in the edge and now the board has cracked (delaminated) between the multiple dents due to the pressure…...

So the question is:

a) is it Ronix's fault for not making a board strong enough to take the bungee cords of boat manufacturers
or
b) is it Tige's fault for making their bungee's too short and putting too much pressure and causing damage to people boards?

The rack is the split rack (1 surf, 1 wake) and the Ronix has been the only board in the rack so less pressure, vs if there were 2 boards, which would have the cord stretched even more.

Looking for thoughts before I call either, the shop I bought the board off of or my Tige dealer

[Iwndr]

If it is delaminated, ronix or whomever you bought it from should warranty it.

[ajnesbitt]

Why does it have to be someone's fault? That being said, I'd talk to Ronix. I can't imagine a board so weak that a bungee would dent it.

[JLG]

Just my

A: Most surf boards are made of a thin layer of fiberglass so yes they will dent easily. Add heat, rough water, etc to them and they are way more likely to dent. Put them in a surf sock on the floor if you don't like the way the rack holds them!

B: "Is Tige responsible" That is just crazy to throw something like that out there! People need to take responsibility for their own carelessness! Tige and any other X brand boat makes a standard length bungee and expects the owner to be capable of using them accordingly. I put my ronix carbon up top in the surf bimini and have never had an issue. I put my thinner "less fragile" less expensive boards in the surf racks and have never had an issue. My boards that are real soft I won't even put in the surf bimini, but again I don't want to damage them!

Sorry for your board being dented, but I just hate to see Tige get thrown under the bus for something like this. Contact ronix and good luck there!

[mdk681]

Most people that I know do not use board racks for that very reason. I stopped using mine due to some small damage on my brand new board as well. I bought a padded bag for my nice board and put it on the floor in the bow. It is neither Ronix nor Tiges fault this happened. Surf boards are weak and those racks are more for wakeboards IMO. Sorry to hear about the damage, if anything I would talk to Ronix about it...

[Ewok]

First trip out with my brand new IS Sweet Spot Pro and my best friend lightly tapped the edge of the gunwale with the edge of the board and put a nice dent and crack in it, twice. All the high end manufactured and custom boards are delicate, it really sucks but I would chalk it up to lesson learned.

[dj2]

First trip out with my brand new IS Sweet Spot Pro and my best friend lightly tapped the edge of the gunwale with the edge of the board and put a nice dent and crack in it, twice. All the high end manufactured and custom boards are delicate, it really sucks but I would chalk it up to lesson learned.

^^^ Most appropriate response so far. I was lucky enough to have a great salesman when I bought my last 2 boards, he educated me on the risks of using board racks and offered me a deal on either padded bags or surf fingers for my racks so I could make the decision. I chose the bags based on his advice and have been happy with my choice.

[lancehon]

Sounds like a board bag is needed, and get rid of those fork board racks, they're the worst thing ever for surfboards

[lancehon]

And I'd highly recommend these surf racks to hold your expensive boards


http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=798147

[007]

Surf boards are delicate as previously mentioned and their best storage depends on the type of board. For us, more delicate surf boards go in the bimini surf pockets. More rugged/harder boards go into the racks delicately.

Be careful with laying boards in bow while running. I've taken a surfboard to the head in my old boat after hitting a rogue swell and one going airborne. Very thankful I had rugged glasses on that day!

[bsreid]

This could be a tricky one it's could be ronix for making such a fragile board, tige for making bad board racks and you for putting them in the racks. I would highly recommend the surf Bimini, we spent $200 to get it installed from a local guy and it's awesome. Did you buy your board from your dealer? If you did take it in and just see what they can do.

[Thegerman618]

Its tough no matter what we choose to do with our boards. If we put them in "Surf Pockets" on top then they get hot and de-laminate, we put them in racks they get beat to he!!, on the floor they are just generally in the way and get bounced around. I have both on my boat, rack and bags, I bought I nice DaKine ocean surf bag that is supposed to keep the heat out, as I found out this weekend acts more like an oven than anything else. The surf socks work good, and if you dump it in the lake and get it wet, then put the board in it usually stays cool for a while. The racks are okay, if the water is calm and the boat isn't bouncing through the water and only at surf speeds I will use the racks with no bungy cords.

[bsreid]

Its tough no matter what we choose to do with our boards. If we put them in "Surf Pockets" on top then they get hot and de-laminate, we put them in racks they get beat to he!!, on the floor they are just generally in the way and get bounced around. I have both on my boat, rack and bags, I bought I nice DaKine ocean surf bag that is supposed to keep the heat out, as I found out this weekend acts more like an oven than anything else. The surf socks work good, and if you dump it in the lake and get it wet, then put the board in it usually stays cool for a while. The racks are okay, if the water is calm and the boat isn't bouncing through the water and only at surf speeds I will use the racks with no bungy cords.

If it is a smaller board, you could get a bag for it and put it in the rear lockers.

[cday76]

Just bought a brand new Ronix Carbon Skim last week (retail is $950 can) and after the 1st day of riding, only road 3 times, I had a quick look over the board at the end of the day and noticed the board had gotten 2 gauges on the edges. So my 1st thought was who could of dropped the board during the day without me noticing as I rode it once and 2 other's rode it once as well but couldn't come up with a single thought of it being dropped. Then 2 days later I went to take it out of my rack (Tige bungee rack on my 2014 RZ2) and noticed another gauge in the edge but this time it was in the exact same spot the bungee cord was in. So what I've now realized is the bungee cord has now caused these dents in the board as you can actually see the pattern of the cord in the edge and now the board has cracked (delaminated) between the multiple dents due to the pressure…...

So the question is:

a) is it Ronix's fault for not making a board strong enough to take the bungee cords of boat manufacturers
or
b) is it Tige's fault for making their bungee's too short and putting too much pressure and causing damage to people boards?

The rack is the split rack (1 surf, 1 wake) and the Ronix has been the only board in the rack so less pressure, vs if there were 2 boards, which would have the cord stretched even more.

Looking for thoughts before I call either, the shop I bought the board off of or my Tige dealer

I think it's the fault of the person who put the board in the rack. You have to take some responsibility for your actions! trying to put blame on a board manufacturer or Tige is the equivalent of driving your boat into the dock and blaming the manufacturer for putting a steering wheel and throttle control in your boat. Some surf boards can go in the rack, but you have to evaluate the board yourself and make the call.

[BCRider]

^Agree. Although frustrating, I'm not sure how you can look to blame either. Chalk it up to user error.