Wake9 AVX Experiment: The Skinny Test

[Greeko]

7000 ft...geeze louise...that must be friggen cold all the time LOL

[tonka8ty]

Water temp is still 50

[ragboy]

Nope, but I have spent too much money. ;-)

[Z1Fan]

Every tige needs more ballast then stock period.... Any dealer who says it does not, has Never taken one out for real!!

[Greeko]

Nope, but I have spent too much money. ;-)

Hello Ragboy,

I have attempted your ballast setting and found a couple issues.
Speed was at 11.5, Taps at 2, Avx at 9.
We were leaning approx 9 -10 degrees until the wave cleaned up on goofy and 8-9 degrees on regular.
The boat had the nose about 7 degrees higher than the aft.

We had 6 people in the boat, 100% full front, 100% full surf side, 50-70% full counter weight, 300 lbs of lead in the rear surf locker, 50 lbs of lead at the front of the Xl sack. I had most of the passengers line the surf side in the back.


The wave had great push and shape in the front but a bit the wave seemed quite short and had very little push in the back. The wave also seemed a bit...soft..

I didn't get any good pictures of the wave but I was hoping for a few hints.

[ragboy]

a couple of things, on goofy, balance your people weight more to the front, not the rear, and if you have a decent amount of people, but a body up there. If the wake is soft, speed up a bit.

Also, we have found AVX varies with weight, so if you use more/less people, AVX may need to be different. Still getting all the details. wake worked GREAT for the competition, one of the true real world tests.

[Greeko]

a couple of things, on goofy, balance your people weight more to the front, not the rear, and if you have a decent amount of people, but a body up there. If the wake is soft, speed up a bit.

Also, we have found AVX varies with weight, so if you use more/less people, AVX may need to be different. Still getting all the details. wake worked GREAT for the competition, one of the true real world tests.

Thank you,

Do you remember what angles you had the boat at? I am wondering if having my nose 7-8 degrees in the air is too much.

[ragboy]

Don't remember front to back, but I have pictures I can find. Sounds too high, need to get weight forward on goofy.

[Greeko]

Don't remember front to back, but I have pictures I can find. Sounds too high, need to get weight forward on goofy.

I also had a similar lean on the regular side as well. I am hoping if I shift weight forward it will lengthen the wave a bit....

Thanks for checking!

[dj2]

Don't remember front to back, but I have pictures I can find. Sounds too high, need to get weight forward on goofy.

Would it be the same for an 08 RZ4? Between fighting with the swim deck and the prop wash I am extremely jealous of the regular riders on my boat. I usually run 11.5 mph, 1000 lbs in the right rear, about 200 lbs up front and have everyone in the back situated to get the boat listing 9-10 degrees.

[Duncan]

Would it be the same for an 08 RZ4? Between fighting with the swim deck and the prop wash I am extremely jealous of the regular riders on my boat. I usually run 11.5 mph, 1000 lbs in the right rear, about 200 lbs up front and have everyone in the back situated to get the boat listing 9-10 degrees.

dj2, I have a 2009 RZ2 and none of the modern RZ3 weighting information has any application to our boat (completely different hull). Ragboy ran a steep lean RZ2 setup for a while -- you can probably track down his setup via search. For an RZ hull, I think you need some more rear corner weight (especially on the longer RZ4) and a lot more bow weight (ideally most of it on surf side).

If you have not installed a large surf flap, you should consider it. The flap can extend past the back of the deck, eliminating lip turbulence (but not the over sized deck interference). It also does wonders for prop wash.

[majestic]

a couple of things, on goofy, balance your people weight more to the front, not the rear, and if you have a decent amount of people, but a body up there. If the wake is soft, speed up a bit.

Also, we have found AVX varies with weight, so if you use more/less people, AVX may need to be different. Still getting all the details. wake worked GREAT for the competition, one of the true real world tests.

For the comp:

The regular side was at 7 degrees of list with Taps at 3 AVX at 5 speed at 11.4

Goofy was 9 degrees of list, taps at 3, AVX at 8 speed at 11.4.

The wave was solid between 10.6 and 11.8. Boat was super easy to dial after we had a good base line.

[Greeko]

For the comp:

The regular side was at 7 degrees of list with Taps at 3 AVX at 5 speed at 11.4

Goofy was 9 degrees of list, taps at 3, AVX at 8 speed at 11.4.


The wave was solid between 10.6 and 11.8. Boat was super easy to dial after we had a good base line.

Do you remember what the forward lean angle was?

[Greeko]

For the comp:

The regular side was at 7 degrees of list with Taps at 3 AVX at 5 speed at 11.4

Goofy was 9 degrees of list, taps at 3, AVX at 8 speed at 11.4.

The wave was solid between 10.6 and 11.8. Boat was super easy to dial after we had a good base line.

Did you also happen to see the extra weighting?

[gwhite94]

Would it be the same for an 08 RZ4? Between fighting with the swim deck and the prop wash I am extremely jealous of the regular riders on my boat. I usually run 11.5 mph, 1000 lbs in the right rear, about 200 lbs up front and have everyone in the back situated to get the boat listing 9-10 degrees.

dj2 I run my RZ4 with 1000lbs up front (both sides Full) Goofy Rear Full 25% on the other side. Speed 10.6 with just a few people 2-3 and 11.2-4 with more than that. Taps 3-4 This should give you a good starting point. The surf flap idea from about will help with the wash