2015 Tige ASR @ Surf Expo

[ragboy]

@tall
That taps plate is specific to the ASR, its the only tige model with a plate like that, and it kinda integrates into the hull, not just mounted to the back.

[dom w. forte]

Its interesting that a hull very similar to a G23 would benefit from a plate the same or very closely shaped to the one found on a G23. I am not trying to say anyone copied anyone as we all know that Tige used the plate first, but similar design benefits from another similar design.

I too have found it flattering that Nautique chose to go with a convex v hull and plate with the G series , when you consider that they bashed that design for years saying the plate was a crutch for a bad hull design!

[jbort]

any price info?

[WakerideN]

I always have to laugh at this market.(surf\wake boat that is) lovers on one side. haters on the other. Innovation is what i see going on. love or hate it. its always good in my mind to see evolution.

I will how-ever note, I do find it interesting that Tige has focused on making a wakeboard specific boat more surfable... guess $$$ does talk. can we expect the RZ series to be phased out???

[ragboy]

As far as I know this is going to be on all models. I have been told by a test rider that the RZR with this, was amazing. And this rider is a GOOD rider and has ridden on our Z3 many times. This is an evolution of all the testing and engineering with the previous VX and the stuff done on our boat and then working out to other models. The idea is to make the best possible surf wake for each model it goes on and has never been specific to the ASR. It may seem like that because the ASR probably needed the most help in the surf department.

[Stingreye]

As far as I know this is going to be on all models. I have been told by a test rider that the RZR with this, was amazing. And this rider is a GOOD rider and has ridden on our Z3 many times. This is an evolution of all the testing and engineering with the previous VX and the stuff done on our boat and then working out to other models. The idea is to make the best possible surf wake for each model it goes on and has never been specific to the ASR. It may seem like that because the ASR probably needed the most help in the surf department.

Ragboy, I haven't seen anything about the draft for the ASR vs Z3 (at the prop).

Unballasted, is the ASR deeper in the water at the transom than the Z3. The hull design leads me to believe no, which leads me to believe the Z3 will indeed surf better unless you put WAY more ballast in.

EDIT- The reason for asking is that the G23 does not sit as low in the water unballasted compared to a 230 despite the 1k of extra hull weight.

[ragboy]

Well, the Z3 is more of a v-hull, and the ASR is a flatter hull. Those flatter hulls usually make better wakeboard wakes. So at rest, yes, I would say the Z3 prop is probably lower in the water. However, the ASR with its rounded corners and such, I am not sure that is the case at 11 or 12 mph. That thing seems to sink down and plow. It does take more weight than a Z3 to get it to list a bit.

At the end of the day, there are so many variables. The only way to know if it works for you is to surf it, and surf the Z3. I bet with some time and the Surf X system, the ASR can make a bad a$$ surf wake. But I don't think it will ever be as adjustable as the Z3. The ASR with a big motor and all that room can be weighted tremendously, yet the Z3 will be more efficient at making a wakesurf wake.

Anyway, just my thoughts from that time we tested over a few days.

[bspot]

Yes, it surfs. Here are some pictures with the ASR and a prototype of the AdaptiVX system. This is with a bit more than stock weight, not so good weather. As long as the production VX works as good as this prototype, its gonna surf.

Funny thing is I remember you telling us the original ASR was gonna surf also.

[ChrisBarnes05-12-84]

I was tied up next to an ASR last weekend and it did not seem to sit any deeper in the water than my z1. Just a lot higher out of the water. I physically got in the water and checked. Before I didn't think I could put an ASR on my shallow lake but now I have no concerns.

[houstonshark]

As far as I know this is going to be on all models. I have been told by a test rider that the RZR with this, was amazing. And this rider is a GOOD rider and has ridden on our Z3 many times. This is an evolution of all the testing and engineering with the previous VX and the stuff done on our boat and then working out to other models. The idea is to make the best possible surf wake for each model it goes on and has never been specific to the ASR. It may seem like that because the ASR probably needed the most help in the surf department.

What's the update on the TAPS plates you were gonna offer for sale, Robert? I never heard anything more.

[st68]

any price info?

I am pretty sure the one at Surf Expo listed for about $130k

[Alberta_Surfer]

Go demo an asr thrn demo a g23 and be honest with what u see..

Take it for what it's worth but I've surfed the 2015 with the new AVX and it does surf great on both Port and Starboard sides of the boat. As well have surfed a G23 with NSS and can honestly say the ASR had a better Port side wave than the G. I'm a regular footed rider so only surfed that side, there were goofy footers in the boat that were very impressed with the goofy wave after riding it. The G is a great boat and surfs great bit the 2015 ASR is so much better than the 14's it should not be looked over.

[ragboy]

It would be interesting to see which one would be better once dialed in some time spent with it. We rode the G23 like a week before the tests we did on the ASR with the prototype AVX. Both were weighted a bit over stock, and RJ liked the ASR better. But the real comparison in my mind, would be each at their full potential. That would be fun to compare, no doubt.

[st68]

It would be interesting to see which one would be better once dialed in some time spent with it. We rode the G23 like a week before the tests we did on the ASR with the prototype AVX. Both were weighted a bit over stock, and RJ liked the ASR better. But the real comparison in my mind, would be each at their full potential. That would be fun to compare, no doubt.

I like that idea!!

[jbort]

can you say Southern Surfest for the compare?