Tige Remote Control Wake?

[CarFanatic]

The Z3 with Vx, and now the moving vx is an insane surf boat. The gate systems have there place, and make sense for the masses. I get the ease of use, and side to side switching. For me the wave is most important, and I dont think anything out there beats what tige has in the wave category.

[Tomp]

Is the new adjustable VX an additional option over the fixed VX?

Or is it only available in the new adjustable version only?

Is there a build sheet with list prices available on 2015 boats?
I got one with my 2014 Z3 and it is not clear on the website what all the available options are, I had heard that prices vary in different areas so maybe the list prices are not consistent or available to the public?

[boardman74]

Yes..option to both

Prices are for the dealers only as far as I know. I also believe prices are standard and the thing that varies is freight so that can change pricing some. But keep in mind the fixed pricing is dealer COST. So each dealer can decide their own margin on each unit so thats why you see a variance. There is a variance in actual sale pricing and not in MSRP. Some dealer choose to make money on volume(lower individual pricing) and others try to hit a home run on every sale.

Your dealer will have a price sheet with all option pricing. There is not one available publicly that I know of.

Also I know the question of retro fitting was asked for the AVX. What I was told is there is 0 retrofitting. Not even to just made 2015's that arrived in stock last week. Its something that has to be built that way.

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Yes..option to both

Prices are for the dealers only as far as I know. I also believe prices are standard and the thing that varies is freight so that can change pricing some. But keep in mind the fixed pricing is dealer COST. So each dealer can decide their own margin on each unit so thats why you see a variance. There is a variance in actual sale pricing and not in MSRP. Some dealer choose to make money on volume(lower individual pricing) and others try to hit a home run on every sale.

Your dealer will have a price sheet with all option pricing. There is not one available publicly that I know of.

Also I know the question of retro fitting was asked for the AVX. What I was told is there is 0 retrofitting. Not even to just made 2015's that arrived in stock last week. Its something that has to be built that way.

X2 this is the same information I've heard and seen!


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^^^Looks like I'll be trading in my tige this fall/winter for a Malibu or Air Nautique. All these changes in their hull designs, ballast systems, surf systems, engines, etc...for the same model in 3 yrs, Just communicates that they are not leaders in the industry and they are sorely behind the curb. Why else would they have 3 iterations of their surf system in 3 years, and 2 hull designs for the same boat?

What a salesperson's dream going up against Tige now...

"well, I'm considering a Tige as well"

Salesperson for______ competitor: "I'd be careful in buying a Tige, you may be buying an outdated model by this time next year"

"How so? "

" Well Tige has changed up their boat options and standard features 3 times in 3 years, and what you're buying today may be an inferior product, hell, maybe even next month. It may be better to look into a Tige in about 5-8 years after they work out all the kinks"

[chpthril]

Why else would they have 3 iterations of their surf system in 3 years, and 2 hull designs for the same boat?

What surf system, not to mention its on its 3rd revision?

What boat or boats, has changed its hull design?

Hopefully Malibu will get its PnP draining issues resolved and CC will fix those breaking shafts by time you buy.

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^^^Looks like I'll be trading in my tige this fall/winter for a Malibu or Air Nautique. All these changes in their hull designs, ballast systems, surf systems, engines, etc...for the same model in 3 yrs, Just communicates that they are not leaders in the industry and they are sorely behind the curb. Why else would they have 3 iterations of their surf system in 3 years, and 2 hull designs for the same boat?

What a salesperson's dream going up against Tige now...

"well, I'm considering a Tige as well"

Salesperson for______ competitor: "I'd be careful in buying a Tige, you may be buying an outdated model by this time next year"

"How so? "

" Well Tige has changed up their boat options and standard features 3 times in 3 years, and what you're buying today may be an inferior product, hell, maybe even next month. It may be better to look into a Tige in about 5-8 years after they work out all the kinks"

Motor change due to PCM not having an idea where they are going since GM isn't producing the 5.7 anymore. Indmar knew this and THEY switched to Ford motors not Tige but they knew it was in the future. The hull has NOT changed the ConvexVX shape and taps plate has...that and upgraded ballast. They are doing their job introducing new products and innovations that continue to push the sport. New products and innovations that force people to upgrade to get...they are in business to make money and push the sport both of which they are doing.


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What surf system, not to mention its on its 3rd revision?


What boat or boats, has changed its hull design?

Hopefully Malibu will get its PnP draining issues resolved and CC will fix those breaking shafts by time you buy.

Ask the first gen (3 yrs ago) z3 owners that bought 2012/2013's. There's a thread about it the differences in hull.

Then came the ConvexVX, we'll that one needed adjustments and new brackets, so then another came out, and now this new AVX. So that 3 designs on surf systems. You can call the first iteration a recall, or was it a flawed design taken to the market too soon.

Then they launched the the baddest boy in the lineup the ASR, and now that first year boat is the Old Version.... Seriously... is Obama running this company, all this leading from behind... Ha!

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Ask the first gen (3 yrs ago) z3 owners that bought 2012/2013's. There's a thread about it the differences in hull.

Then came the ConvexVX, we'll that one needed adjustments and new brackets, so then another came out, and now this new AVX. So that 3 designs on surf systems. You can call the first iteration a recall, or was it a flawed design taken to the market too soon.

Then they launched the the baddest boy in the lineup the ASR, and now that first year boat is the Old Version.... Seriously... is Obama running this company, all this leading from behind... Ha!

Well the only boats that needed the updated brackets were the 2012 boats and prior which was the OLD mounting system. The ASR was a new model find me any company that makes a new model and come the second year doesn't refine it slightly I'd love to see...


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Well the only boats that needed the updated brackets were the 2012 boats and prior which was the OLD mounting system. The ASR was a new model find me any company that makes a new model and come the second year doesn't refine it slightly I'd love to see...


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Ah come on man, 5 major engineering and technological advances rolled out just months from the first year production models is not "refined slightly".

[chpthril]

Ask the first gen (3 yrs ago) z3 owners that bought 2012/2013's. There's a thread about it the differences in hull.

Then came the ConvexVX, we'll that one needed adjustments and new brackets, so then another came out, and now this new AVX. So that 3 designs on surf systems. You can call the first iteration a recall, or was it a flawed design taken to the market too soon.

Then they launched the the baddest boy in the lineup the ASR, and now that first year boat is the Old Version.... Seriously... is Obama running this company, all this leading from behind... Ha!

Im well aware of the pre-production Z3's, I surfed one in Sept 2011. It went back to get reworked.

The VX bracket snafu was a result of mis-cue between the design schematic and the machining process.

Isnt there a 15 page thread about why Tige doesnt have a surf system?

Whats changed about ASR, other than an adjustable VX?

[Z1Fan]

Guys your forgetting one thing, every tige dealer is gleaming, now they can upgrade you to a new boat, what a concept for sales.......

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Im well aware of the pre-production Z3's, I surfed one in Sept 2011. It went back to get reworked.

The VX bracket snafu was a result of mis-cue between the design schematic and the machining process.

Isnt there a 15 page thread about why Tige doesnt have a surf system?

Whats changed about ASR, other than an adjustable VX?

1. Raptor Engine
2. Tige Touch 2
3. Surf X
4. AVX
5. Remote

[dom w. forte]

Of course they don't, but then again not many car manufacturers change their product offerings every year for a particular model. The industry has a 6-7 year cycle for products. Yes updates and changes are made along the way and mid year refreshes, but also the public is more informed on when and what those future products are going to be. That's why we go to car shows and we buy car magazines. And I went to this year's boat show, and no mention from the sales people about the 2015 Raptor Engine, or the upcoming AVX or Surf X Ballast, etc...

Trust me I know this better than most, I buy 2-3 cars per year and do my research. Also, go back to 2012/2013 and see all the back lash bmw got when they simply power bumped their V8TT engines by 40 hp.

I think it'd funny when you get sold on the best surfing boat in the biz, or the baddest wakeboard / surf boat (ASR) and then not even 6 months go by and they change almost everything they just sold you on.... So wait, I'm confused - so how does this benefit the consumer and their customers?

So all those CC 230 sold as their badest boat just before the release of the G23 should have been informed , but were not , then theres all the 2014 Corvettes sold as the badest car yet , but less then 6 months later they offer an upgraded engine and suspension package with no prior notification.
When your trying to stay on top of your game you change as soon as possible to the latest , show any home computor you can buy now that isnt out dated before you get home, Master Craft went through 7 tower changes in a year , they also advertised the new X Star as 9 years in the making but couldnt diliver the product for another year , Correct Craft advertised for years that a trim plate on a non planeing hull is a bad design but then desides its a good thing and builds the G series , lets see non planing hull with trim plate came out on Tige in 2003 , thats 12 years same hull with yes constant improvements to enhance the design.The one thing boat manufacturers can do is make change faster then mass produced products and there isnt one boat manufacturer that doesnt persue that principle and in a highly competitive market there going to keep that info quiet until the release, even if its the next day. NSS wasnt avaible on the first G23 and came out less then 3 months later how should those early owners feel and if retro at how much cost to the consumer?

[sandm]

^well put. I see this all the time in the car world(hellcat and nismo gtr are 2 more recent examples), not to mention electronics, and even houses(buy one now and it's corian, next month granite due to a builder sourcing a new vendor that offers a deal).

I have to believe for the 95% of us, the current z3 wake is more than sufficient and I'd be stoked to own a '14 without any of these new additions...