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    Originally posted by Z1Fan View Post
    Oh Lord I know how Much a z3 is , but in was referring to is you can buy a 60k value boat and get a good wake without all the bells and whistles and put money in the bank , or pay 120k and get the same wake and all the bells and whistles and the headache that goes with all them, so for me I will spend the 60k list the boat for that few hours of fun , and take the money i save and buy a new dodge hellcat !!!

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    That's axis t22 money right there -- "value" boat with automated surf system.

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      Originally posted by shawndoggy View Post
      That's axis t22 money right there -- "value" boat with automated surf system.
      still 74k plus 12% tax (82k) in British Columbia unfortunately
      supreme S21 is about 69k taxes in
      Last edited by Z1Fan; 08-13-2014, 07:48 PM.

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        Yeah a buddy of mine has a Supreme s21. Good wave but sacs galore to get it killer. Our 210 with NSS matches it but with no sacs on the seat and little or no list. Upgraded to 2800 lb ballast from stock 900. But definitely $$$. Supreme would be my option if I didn't have the cash for the 210.

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          Here is a little better video of the Malibu wave... not sure how to get 1080p to youtube from my 5s

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            Originally posted by harv View Post
            Yeah a buddy of mine has a Supreme s21. Good wave but sacs galore to get it killer. Our 210 with NSS matches it but with no sacs on the seat and little or no list. Upgraded to 2800 lb ballast from stock 900. But definitely $$$. Supreme would be my option if I didn't have the cash for the 210.
            Really?? sacs galore ? the boat has two 500# fast fills in the floor for 1000#'s in the floor and one 900# sac in each rear locker for a total of 1800 in the back, for a grand total of 2800#'s onboard ballast, and he needed more?? whats he trying to do get a hawaii style wave going ?
            Last edited by Z1Fan; 08-13-2014, 08:36 PM.

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              Well, not sure if it needed the extra sacs but the boat owner loaded it up that way. Stock ballast plus 800 on the port seat and 400 on the rear seat.

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                This video reinforces comments about a surf system wave lacking push. How many pumps does it take? Maybe the NSS is better? Our wave with NSS does NOT lack push at all.

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                  How fast are you running in that video? Looks a little slow. Wave looks nice though.
                  Build thread: http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?14787-Duffy-s-2005-24v-wakesurfing-mod-thread&highlight=duffys+24v

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                    rider in the vid above is pumping to get forward drive for the air trick. we've been on this boat and it has lots of push. The two instructor pros we have had lessons with (Sean Cumming and Trevor Miller) both said "3 pumps and go". Mark does on that two and pumps 4-5 times on others I think because he's way deep in the wave and seeking to get max altitude.

                    BTW - its for sale too as FYI.

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                      Originally posted by st68 View Post
                      I took video of my buddy's 2013 Malibu 24 MXZ today with Surf Gate because he has it pretty dialed in... I am not a Malibu owner, I have a G23... but you be the judge of the video... by the way... Nautique with NSS does not list to one side... I guess someone could if they wanted but it is not necessary to get the desired results. I will share video of my wave soon...

                      Congrats !!!!! On the G boat !!! Lets see a pick of the boat too!!!

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                        shooting vids on the G this sat.

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                          That guy is riding a chase sixes in the video which is a pumper. I wouldn't totally judge the wave by pumping on that board.
                          http://wake9.com/

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                            I love my 07 24ve with the Enzo Sacs......
                            but...
                            This past weekend at Lake of the Ozarks I rode on a buddy's 2014 Nautique 230, not the G23, but V bow 230 that has the NSS--and I was impressed.
                            The surf wave was good, or as good as I think my 24ve has; or at least adequate that I got up easily and couldn't really tell much difference. I surf goofy, it was a little steep but good push and decent pocket. I was riding their board and it was fast so I kept having to "put on the brakes' Where the Nautique sold me was then my buddy surfed --regular--and we started right up. No wait. No fuss. No hang on for a few minutes.... We switched again and I surfed; again, like wakeboarding or skiing, next guy goes.

                            I can switch sides in my boat in about 8-10 mins or so, which is a good chill time, but that instant switch;;;esp when you have a bunch of newbies on the boat is VERY convenient. Later as we were going back to dock they showed me while it moved how the wave swtitches and it was very cool.

                            Riding in that boat was the very first time I actually considered upgrading from my Ve. As a family-rec-surfer, I would take the convenience over the world class any day. Hoopefully Tige has something in their pipeline that is the simplicity of the TAPS, but for the surfing. I'm not ready to jump ship (ha), but if the same type of convenience came out..........

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                              Aftermarket systems have to be in the works. It would be so easy to make.
                              Build thread: http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?14787-Duffy-s-2005-24v-wakesurfing-mod-thread&highlight=duffys+24v

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                                Originally posted by duffymahoney View Post
                                Aftermarket systems have to be in the works. It would be so easy to make.
                                Over on PN, there are a few threads of guys that have made up NSS systems to add onto their older Nautiques and it appears with some success. However it looks as if the NSS type versions are being made to match the hull shape just as Nautique has done. Not sure if a "on shape fits all" would work or not. If not, is there enough of a demand from an aftermarket standpoint to build plates for all the different hulls that could benifit? Things are sure changing fast.
                                "I think I am pretty smart for an idiot"

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