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    VX or no VX? 13' RZR

    All,

    Still on the fence about paying over 3K to upgrade my 13' RZR to VX. Looking for opinions on if the upgrade is worth it and if it will offer noticeable benefits. Also, I read about a VX2 and possible surf system?? So maybe this doesn't make sense financially and I can just upgrade in a few years. See below for my comments and some pictures.

    - Overall I'm happy with the wave (height, length and push) on both sides. Some say my goofy wake is better actually which contradicts most of what I read prior to the purchase. Pictures below don't show it but I have had it pretty mackin before.
    - We have more normal than goofy riders but end up setting up both sides each time.
    - I'm just a beginner but progressing quickly. In the end, I'm just out there to have a good time with friends and family.
    - My only complaint is when the boat is not listed enough (due to passenger position), we get a lot of prop wash in the wake. A slight turn helps but our home lake is small and this is difficult sometimes. Will VX help with prop wash at all?
    - If anything, a slightly longer wave would be nice.
    - I will add whatever ballast upgrades needed at the same time.
    - I just had to for the last pic... so dope.

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    You will still get prop wash without enough list. Even with the Vx, I still need the 9 degrees of list or so.

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      #3
      Originally posted by JohnnieMo View Post
      You will still get prop wash without enough list. Even with the Vx, I still need the 9 degrees of list or so.
      Have you had both VX and no VX? Are you thinking VX would not help my prop wash issue? Thanks for the help btw.

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        #4
        I haven't tried without my Vx yet, although its on my list of things to do. I'm just saying don't expect your prop wash to immediately be solved with the Vx. List is still required.

        With that being said, I think you'll see an improvement. And once you add the list... woah... that wave is clean enough to eat on.

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          #5
          I had no vx on my z1.,.and threw a nice wake

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            #6
            I forgot.... on my dealer demo we went without the Vx. Here are the pics I took last fall. Still looks pretty damn clean.





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              #7
              Originally posted by mschmidt33 View Post
              All,
              - My only complaint is when the boat is not listed enough (due to passenger position), we get a lot of prop wash in the wake. A slight turn helps but our home lake is small and this is difficult sometimes. Will VX help with prop wash at all?
              I added the VX to my 2011 RZ2, and with the same weighting, the VX made the prop wash worse on the goofy side. I can't take TAPS to anything less than 4 without bad wash on the goofy side. Regular is fine.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Coop View Post
                I added the VX to my 2011 RZ2, and with the same weighting, the VX made the prop wash worse on the goofy side. I can't take TAPS to anything less than 4 without bad wash on the goofy side. Regular is fine.
                WOW, thanks. Not getting sold with this one. Still an RZ2 and all boats are different. Someone convince me with proof.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mschmidt33 View Post
                  WOW, thanks. Not getting sold with this one. Still an RZ2 and all boats are different. Someone convince me with proof.
                  Just to be clear, I think the VX did help on the regular side. I'm going to be messing with more weight and different speeds on the goofy side to try to dial it in.

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                    #10
                    My 13 had no VX and the 14 does. Both were RZR's like yours. Big difference is cleaning up the goofy side. If we all rode regular wouldn't be worth the cash at all.

                    On a side not where are people reading about a VX2 and Tige surf system. I must be getting out of the loop because I haven't heard anything remotely like that.

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                      #11
                      On my Z1 , regular side was very good , without the vx, but I could never dial in the goofy side

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by boardman74 View Post
                        My 13 had no VX and the 14 does. Both were RZR's like yours. Big difference is cleaning up the goofy side. If we all rode regular wouldn't be worth the cash at all.

                        On a side not where are people reading about a VX2 and Tige surf system. I must be getting out of the loop because I haven't heard anything remotely like that.
                        I heard from a little birdie that there was a new VX design in the works. The ASR's haven't even gotten their VX's yet as the wake being produced wasn't up to par. The surf system people are talking about I don't know? Maybe the new Surf X ballast set-up? I don't know of anything else...


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                          #13
                          What you heard about a VX for the ASR is true, but a new VX design hasn't even been mentioned thru the regular channels. The Surf X package is required if you order a VX so maybe that is where the confusion is. I do know a guy who will know without fail. I will hit him up tomorrow!!

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                            #14
                            This is how it was explained to me with the VX. This extends the Hull so, instead of a 20' boat it will now be 22'. On my boat which is a RZ2 without the VX the wave was great. I wanted a longer wake so I had the VX installed. Now if it is just 2 to 3 people on the boat the wake is not as tall. However, when i have 6 or more people on the boat the wave is longer and taller than it was before. Also, no matter the wave is so much cleaner prop wash is almost non existent even on goofy side. It was explained that you need more weight to make it work in other words. By the way i have the Pro system ballast. Which means I may have to upgrade my ballast and have more weight added for those times when we have only a few people on the boat. Wife and I can surf at the same time now.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by boardman74 View Post
                              My 13 had no VX and the 14 does. Both were RZR's like yours. Big difference is cleaning up the goofy side. If we all rode regular wouldn't be worth the cash at all.

                              On a side not where are people reading about a VX2 and Tige surf system. I must be getting out of the loop because I haven't heard anything remotely like that.
                              I think I read on WW about the surf system and the VX2 in the Raptor thread. Could be wrong. So no improvement on the regular wave prop wash?

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