Question for those with Pro Ballast Systems

[Z1Fan]

Have you actually pulled out these 2 sacs? Not doubting, just trying to establish a time line of when the change was made from a single U shaped sac to two individual sacs, like the Pro level has been from the beginning.

Oh yes, just attached a picture for you to see the left sac.... and just behind it , is the right hand sac.... when i took a boat load of water over the bow i had to remove them to dry it all out !!!!!

[Z1Fan]

I do believe it started in 2013 with the NEW Z1 , the brochure also show two destinct sac's on both surf and pro system ...

[chpthril]

Thanks for that info. The longer NC goes without a Tige dealer (6 years now tige, with no local dealer) the harder it is for me to keep up on the changes from year to year.

[Z1Fan]

Sadly I wish I had a better dealer here to, I thought he was good , but unless you spend 100k and over your just a number to him , it's the reason I want to sell my boat .

[Z1Fan]

Thanks for that info. The longer NC goes without a Tige dealer (6 years now tige, with no local dealer) the harder it is for me to keep up on the changes from year to year.

have a look at the picture from last years brochure

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[gibbs114]

I have the pro system in my 2014 Z1 it takes 3 1/2 min to fill the front.


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[Cloud]

I wonder if we both got duped at all. I have the pro as well and it takes about the same, but double to fill the rears. With only a 50 pound difference, it shouldn't take double the time.

My boat is at the dealer right now and he says the bags were not twisted at all. Takes 3.5 minutes to fill front while almost 6 to do the rears. I asked him if that makes any sense at all.
He also says the bags up front are nowhere near the bags in the rear. Seeing that the rears have bags and a hard tank, I'm assuming they messed up.

What you guys recommend if they say it's the right bag?

I have the pro system in my 2014 Z1 it takes 3 1/2 min to fill the front.


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[CarFanatic]

maybe there is no "pro ballast" up front

[Cloud]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[Matt Garcia]

I have the same issue too. My front bags seem to fill very quickly and my rear takes a lot longer. It almost appears as if the front doesn’t have enough weight either. Whenever I have the boat completely sacked out and with 4-6 adults on board it seems to almost want to porpoise and I know the reason being is not enough weight in the front. Once I put an adult up there the boat rides much better and doesn’t porpoise over any roller. I do make sure that all of my sacks are overflowing with water before turning them off. I need to check and see what that front sack is doing.

[Dandy]

I wonder if we both got duped at all. I have the pro as well and it takes about the same, but double to fill the rears. With only a 50 pound difference, it shouldn't take double the time.

My boat is at the dealer right now and he says the bags were not twisted at all. Takes 3.5 minutes to fill front while almost 6 to do the rears. I asked him if that makes any sense at all.
He also says the bags up front are nowhere near the bags in the rear. Seeing that the rears have bags and a hard tank, I'm assuming they messed up.

What you guys recommend if they say it's the right bag?

Did you mean 50% difference, not 50 pound? With 400 lbs per side up front and 600 in the back that is an increase of 50%. If you take 3.5 minutes for the front and increase it by 50% it equates to 5.25 minutes, not all that far off from 6 minutes. Depending a possible different in "head pressure" on the pump, as the front pumps gradually to a lower height, where as the back has to pump almost straight up, this would put additional head pressure on the pump, not allowing it to pump as much per minute/hour as the front pumps. Doing the math, it actually looks pretty legit to me...unless I am missing somethign obvious.

[JohnnieMo]

I posted this in another thread too. My Pro ballast fills the front in 2:30 and the rears in 5:30. I want to pull the bags out and fill them and measure them. I doubt it is 400lbs. I'll be really choked if I pull surf bags out of there.

[Dandy]

I posted this in another thread too. My Pro ballast fills the front in 2:30 and the rears in 5:30. I want to pull the bags out and fill them and measure them. I doubt it is 400lbs. I'll be really choked if I pull surf bags out of there.

I believe the basic and surf systems use a single U shapped bag. The pro ballast is supposed to be 2 seperate bags to allow for more adjustment. If I recall this correctly, if you have 2 different bags, you would have the pro system - I may be wrong - dealers (dom, boardman...) please verify.

[Cloud]

Indeed, you are missing something obvious. It's 550 a side in the front. 600 a side in the rear. Like I stated in the OP, I have a 2014 RZ4 with Pro Ballast System. At least I think I do. lol

Did you mean 50% difference, not 50 pound? With 400 lbs per side up front and 600 in the back that is an increase of 50%. If you take 3.5 minutes for the front and increase it by 50% it equates to 5.25 minutes, not all that far off from 6 minutes. Depending a possible different in "head pressure" on the pump, as the front pumps gradually to a lower height, where as the back has to pump almost straight up, this would put additional head pressure on the pump, not allowing it to pump as much per minute/hour as the front pumps. Doing the math, it actually looks pretty legit to me...unless I am missing somethign obvious.

[Cloud]

I'm in the same boat as you. (Well almost) (pun intended)

I'll let you know what my dealer says.

I have the same issue too. My front bags seem to fill very quickly and my rear takes a lot longer. It almost appears as if the front doesn’t have enough weight either. Whenever I have the boat completely sacked out and with 4-6 adults on board it seems to almost want to porpoise and I know the reason being is not enough weight in the front. Once I put an adult up there the boat rides much better and doesn’t porpoise over any roller. I do make sure that all of my sacks are overflowing with water before turning them off. I need to check and see what that front sack is doing.