2014 Z3 purchased, now the follow ups from other brand selling dealers.

[c_hotshot]

Congrats on your purchase! Always like the blue and white colors! I'm sure you'll love your Tige!

[rensink]

I LOVED my 2013 Z3 and that was after owning a few Rz series boats and the Z3 became my hands down my favorite thus far. Tomp I agree with Chpthrill in his findings...the Z3 has plenty of interior space, they porpoise like crazy...sure if you don't know what you are doing and go WOT with the taps at 8 or rear ballast full, and as far as them being tippy from side to side...they list some but nothing I would call VERY or unsafe by any means. You will be very happy with your purchase and I hope the dealer offers a full on-water orientation as well as a good buying experience as that is critical in enjoying it!

[boardman74]

I would disregard the other dealers claims. The Tige boats are designed with more "trim" in them than the traditional inboard. So like said if you run the TAPS all the way up it will porpoise. But the boat is not designed to be ran like that. The hull is designed to work with the TAPS plate versus other manufacturers who just screw a trim tab to the back of the boat. The Tige hull needs the TAPS plate to run properly because it is designed to use it. Where on other brand boats its just there to help shape the wake. If used properly the boat should never porpoise. I have never had mine unless I do it on purpose(see what I did there..LOL)! As for the tippy I have never heard that at all about the Z3. The R20/ RZR hull can be a little finicky side to side because of the smaller size and narrower beam. But the Z3 is much wider so not an issue. It has the same 102" beam as the LSV so that makes his comment somewhat funny to me. If the Z3 is tippy, so is the LSV.

[loudelectronics]

Dont forget the z3 will make a better surf wake than the bu all day long.

I do find the Z3 to not have as much room inside as some other 23' boats. My 24V is much roomier. Also note that if you sit in a malibu your knees are at your ears. The Tige is much deeper and more comfortable.

You made the right choice.

[sandm]

I shopped mb over tige. watertested the mb and coming from a pretty flat hulled supra, the mb really felt "tippy" to me. with all of us sitting on one side(2+dealer), it was somewhat wierd driving it. my first time in the water with the tige did not feel at all like that. some lean, but nothing like the mb.
I will say wakeboarding, the tige is more sensitive to side to side people placement than the supra was. all we do is surf tho and if buying a surfboat, it's a no-brainer
I do echo the interior comments. participating in the polar bear in '12, rag's z3 felt somewhat cramped compared with some of the other boats. for the extra foot, the centurion 244 was a floating living room. hands down the biggest disappointment in a wake tho

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I will say wakeboarding, the tige is more sensitive to side to side people placement than the supra was.

I agree the Z3 is at wakeboard speed is definitely more weight sensitive than that of Supra or MC especially if you put a lot of weight in the boat. I am not surprised by it and it is really, really easy to adjust too on the fly.



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[Bogdog]

Hmmmm, ok let's start the riot: I changed from an 08 Centurion lighning C4 to a '13 Tige Z1. IT IS TIPPY FROM SIDE TO SIDE. That is my only complaint thus far, when we hit the "go home" mode or pretty much any time we go over 20mph. I actually make notes on taps/ballast/ people and speed to find the best combo, thus far I'm finding front bags 1/4 full and rears empty with taps at 4/5 to be best but I do still ask the missus to move around to balance the boat.

[CarFanatic]

porpoising, means the bow bobs up and down as you go.. Just trim it with the taps plate. I just bought a Z3 as well. I have not had mine in the water yet. I looked at both the 23lsv and z3. those were my top 2 choices. The malibu does have a much bigger layout. I test drove a z1 and had none of the issues stated. Boat was rock solid, handled great. I went with tige for the surf wave, and fit and finish on the interior was much nicer.

[rensink]

porpoising, means the bow bobs up and down as you go.. Just trim it with the taps plate. I just bought a Z3 as well. I have not had mine in the water yet. I looked at both the 23lsv and z3. those were my top 2 choices. The malibu does have a much bigger layout. I test drove a z1 and had none of the issues stated. Boat was rock solid, handled great. I went with tige for the surf wave, and fit and finish on the interior was much nicer.

The taps is great for adjusting the shape of the wake and trim of the boat but once the boat is going faster than 30 mph in my opinion just drop it to 1 and leave it because anything over that will gradually make the boat porpoise more. The boat also will porpoise if you have a lot of rear weight in the boat (ballast filled) the only way to get rid of porpoising all together if you experience it is remove rear weight or ADD bow weight.

[CarFanatic]

yes I was just talking at cruising speeds. keep plate at 1

[supremedevice]

Can you guys lower the taps plate while simultaneously cruising at speed? I seem to need to slow down or even stop to lower mine, and wonder if its a hydraulic issue or if they are all like that.

[rensink]

Can you guys lower the taps plate while simultaneously cruising at speed? I seem to need to slow down or even stop to lower mine, and wonder if its a hydraulic issue or if they are all like that.

I adjust mine on the fly before I put a new prop on my boat when wakeboarding I would have to set the Taps at 1 get up to speed then set it to whatever we wanted. This was an issue when running more weight than the factory 2,300 pounds.


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[Z3James]

I have not told my local Malibu dealer I bought a Z3 yet. I hope he just congratulates me on my purchase. When I test drove the Malibu I commented to him that the seats are very low in the Malibu and that the Tigé has a much more plush interior. His commit back was wow I have never heard anyone say the Tigé had a nicer interior. My commit back was in your 8 years with Malibu have you ever looked at a Tigé? Lol.

[Ewok]

Can you guys lower the taps plate while simultaneously cruising at speed? I seem to need to slow down or even stop to lower mine, and wonder if its a hydraulic issue or if they are all like that.

Yes, you should be able to adjust the taps on the fly at any speed. You either have a weak hydraulic pump or maybe low hydro fluid, or something more complicated that I haven't even heard of yet.

[CarFanatic]

I have not told my local Malibu dealer I bought a Z3 yet. I hope he just congratulates me on my purchase. When I test drove the Malibu I commented to him that the seats are very low in the Malibu and that the Tigé has a much more plush interior. His commit back was wow I have never heard anyone say the Tigé had a nicer interior. My commit back was in your 8 years with Malibu have you ever looked at a Tigé? Lol.

I think the older malibus had nicer interiors. The new 2014 layout looks cheap to me