Looks like just another copy of the "constant ballast with trim tabs" approach. Naturally they spin it as best they can. Anyone actually seen one of these at a boat show or something?
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I saw the system at the boat show here in Denver. It looks like trim tabs to me. They at least have different sizes and shapes for the different models of boats. -
So them at the boat show last month. Each Tab is designed for each hull, rather then a single tab that fits them all. On one of the hulls, might have been the 25 or the 35, the STBD tab had a further enhancement, specifically for that side of that hull. Its a similar approach to surf wave creation/enhancement as Surf Gate, NSS, Swell, etc.Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And MoreComment
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Anything magical about the software that controls them? Their press releases and promo pieces tried to make their FWMurphy-based system sound "so much better" than Medallion-based systems but from the videos it just looked like "press here for port, press here for starboard" like everyone else. If there's nothing special on the touchscreen, then I agree it's just the latest me-too copy of a multiple trimtab system.
I especially liked one MC quote I read. Something about they wanted to take it to the next level, and after months (months! wow!) of development here it is. I'm an Engineer in real life and no new development project of any real significance is completed in "months".Comment
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Have not seen at the boat show but we'll get to see in action at Southern Surfest in early May.Comment
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Everyone says there's is the best and that it's a game changer. Part of the marketing game. No one is going to say here is our brand new system, we worked hard to design it, but its not as good as X, Y and Z's system. Think back to when Tige's didn't need any ballast!! LOLComment
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All I know is that I hope the designs keep coming and force each mfr to step up their game so it is a continuous improvement for the consumer!Comment
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Ragboy had some comments here:
http://wake9.com/community/content.p...-synswell-2014
Quote from page:
"2014 Mastercraft X10 with Gen 2 Surf System
I am going to just skip over this boat to some degree. Not because it was bad, RJ thought it threw a decent wake with 800 lbs of stock weight. It was small and probably not the best representation of what this boat could do, especially being in salt water. The system seemed to work to help clean the wake up but this was not a "no list" system, this boat listed to make the wake."
My personal experience:
I have not been on a NSS wave but the surfgate style I went on had a round shape and was less steep. You can see in the A22 pics and the A24 pics that the wave has a round shape. I prefer the leaned and slammed.
A couple years ago I was on the Sanger at Polar Bear. It had surf tabs and you used them to create list by dropping the opposite side tab and raising up the surf side. It had a good wave but it was a traditional leaned and slammed boat. The main benefit was that you could drop the surf side tab and get up on plan to pick someone up at the dock without dumping alot of weight.
In honesty WA, I would have a hard time believing that you would get a better wave than your ultra ballasted setup
Mods: MLA BIG Ballast System (1800+ Custom sacs, 2 500 W705 sacs under bow), Duffy Surf Flap Mod, Trimmed Swim Deck, Top-Mount StarterComment
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Are you thinking what I'm thinking though? I'm thinking WA is asking because he was thinking about putting those tabs on his boat...
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Or buying a Mastercraft!!!Comment
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Nope, no tabs, but I am working on some software so I'm interested in what the manufacturers are doing....Originally posted by Timmy! View PostI'm thinking WA is asking because he was thinking about putting those tabs on his boat...Comment
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Is this the mystery project you posted the bread board on?
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Do you remember when MC at the Surf Exbo had the major unveiling of the new X- STAR they claimed it was 9 years in the making and the boat there wasnt even the boat nor could anybody get said boat for over a year later?Originally posted by WABoating View PostComment
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Looks like they are offering a buyback guarantee.
http://www.mastercraft.com/buybackMike Allen, Tigé owner since 1997Comment
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wow that is a huge statement, I will be surfing behind a X30 soon with Gen2 on it...I wish Tige would have given me a buyback guarantee.Originally posted by TeamAllen View PostComment
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