ASR Build Your Tige

[boardman74]

First let me say I think its sad(from Tige) that for this kind of money you guys are reporting glaring fit and finish issues. How could the factory let the boats leave with things so glaring, knowing these boats are going straight to the boat shows and that people are going to be going over them after all the hype. Then expect people to pay 110-125K for a boat with those glaring quality issues. If the boat is going to be a Chevrolet and not a Caddy, thats fine but price needs to reflect that and from pricing people are posting that doesn't seem to be the case.

For the people that are seeing them is the quality worse that other Tige boats? How could Tige possibly think that it could at a minimum not be to the standards of the other boats? Common sense says it needs to be WAY better, considering the money they are asking for these "super boats".

I have to wait a few more weeks to get my eyes on one. My dealer has one on order and I'm thinking it will actually be on the same truck as my new boat. Minneapolis boat show starts in 3 weeks so I will see it then at the latest. I will get lots of pictures for sure. Just hard to believe they are letting these boats leave the factory if the average joe can jump in them and see all their mistakes. I know some disagree, but Nautiques quality is pretty well know(not saying they don't make mistakes), if the ASR is going to compete with the g23 then the quality has got to be there. From what people are saying it has a long way to go.

[houstonshark]

I didn't take many pictures and didn't get in or really inspect the ASR that Texas Tige had at the boat show but I did like it. Man, it is huge!

I didn't see the options list but that boat seemed like it was closer to entry level than loaded. It did not have the Wet Sounds 808's or Sinister amps, no clamping board racks or the supercharged engine. I think it is optioned to sell though, especially here.

[houstonshark]

My kids really liked it and think we need it!

[Wickedcummins]

I actually saw the one at the Houston boat show as well. Really liked the color scheme but forgot to take pictures - I know pretty stupid.

Really liked a lot of the features. I did not think I was going to like the "play pen" bow but to be honest it is huge and looked amazing. Even better was the storage below it. The drivers seat was amazing.

I must admit that the fit and finish were not great. Things like non-smooth fiberglass for the motor hatach. And the thing that bugged me the most was the fact that the drink holder at the drivers seat was partially covered by the side interior panel. Would make getting a drink other than a standard 12oz can difficult to get into it. While these were little things I did not see the same kind of items on the Natique G23 or Mastercraft boats.

Other than that it was pretty cool. Sales guy told me it was $115K and fully loaded. It had the S62 (6.2L 455HP) motor.

Really 5 hey told you 115k loaded? Interesting

[talltigeguy]

Wicked, I thought that you said in the Christmas present thread that it was a done deal, you were getting an ASR? I don't blame you for backing off if they can't build one just right.

On to the topic of the thread...I think this boat looks better on the computer with some color variation in it. I would love to see all black in person, but in the pictures and online version, I think it looks terrible. It just needs something to break it up some.

[Wickedcummins]

I will post up some pics this weekend..I was a done deal with it.. But after seeing the third one and all the same thrown together look is not appealing to me at the price. I would have to be insane to spend my hard earned money on quality like that.

[Wakeman22]

Really like the build pics that have been posted. Personaly I like a few colors and not just a solid one color designs. I also like the fact that flake has come to wakeboats. Wish I could go that route. As far as the fit and finish that has been talked about that would be a deal breaker for me. I have been in a lot of new boats at the shops. Malibu, Axis, Nautique, Mastercraft and they are all perfect in fit and finish with very little to knock. Kind of like looking at a Ranger bass boat compared to a Stratos. The Nautiques that I looked at were absolutely perfect and amazing. I do have an issue with some of the boats Tige has put out. Last year at the reunion got to go over a new RZ4. There were many issue we all spotted. These stood out big time even in the dark of a very dim lit dock. Fit and finish problems as well as parts and things were not well thought out through. If I was paying that kind of money I would want it perfect and at least up to par with other brands in the price range. Seriously. Now does my boat have flaws. Not at all. Would I have designed things different? Yes! Some of these were addressed in the latter years. I am I happy with my boat? Hell yes. But that is because of the great deal I got on it. Its a trade off.

My thought is who is their R&D guys and who inspects these before they are sent into production. I personally know I could do a better job by far. Tige, if you read this post believe that you really need to step up the game if you want to compete with the other top brands at that top level. I am just a normal guy but have a great eye for detail. Maybe you need to hire someone outside of your group to go over your pre production boats and point out all the changes and redesign that may be needed. Sometimes when people work for years together they become myopic and may not see these issues like someone fresh.

I really like Tige and want to support you but please step up the game. Bring some of us owners and "boat people" in to help in the R&D phase and listen to what we may say. I use to do that for Ford, Chevy, Dodge and for other products while I lived in California. I believe that the engineers were listening to us and making the improvements based on what we said, our suggestions and what we compared their brand to others with. It would be worth your time and effort in light of what is being said. One unhappy customer relates to many others hearing their disappointments and thus future customers are lost. This can be a chain reaction and cause market share loss.

Oh and since I am retired now I would be free to come down and consult in these changes and designs that would help you gain that market share and reputation you expect.

[wils1092]

It is unfortunate that Tige quality has seem to have been going down the last 10 yrs while the prices have dramitcally increased over the same time period. There are some very noticeable differences in quailty from my first 2003 22i to my 07 RZ2 to now out 13 Rz4. I will have to admit that the 13 quality is much higher than that of 07. However in our 2013 there are many noticeable fiberglass issues that are just lack of quality control which is unfortunate for a boat that had a 112K sticker. I am a huge tige fan and supporter and love the boats they have been putting out. I do think though that Tige is jumping into the 100k+ market a little to soon. When you jump over 100k you have a completly different customer. A customer that isnt gonna settle for some of the quality that is being put out especially in the rush the ASR was realeased. I hope they get some of their QC issues figured out especially if they want the reputation for quality like mastercraft and natique is known for. I am definetly interested in getting rid of my Rz4 and going to a ASR but as mentioned in this thread the quality of the ASR that they are putting out is going to need to increase to dish out that kind of coin. It will be interesting to see more of the ASR that come out. I will have to check out the black one WWS has at the Denver Boat Show and see if its quality is better than the blue and white one that i saw in person.

[talltigeguy]

I had a 2002 21V, and it was a terrific boat. I felt like it didn't have all the bells and whistles, but was well built and had a great fit and finish. I was proud that I was having as much fun as the 'other guys' with more expensive boats for significantly less money. It just seems that the bells and whistles have now come first....like 'hey, let's get super expensive vinyl, but not stitch it together very well'. Makes perfect sense.

[Wickedcummins]

My local dealer did tell me that these boat are not going to any customers tho as they are demos for us the consumers to look at and enjoy before the production boats are available. like a first look at the boat. These boats at the shows n such where built for all of us to get an Idea of that the boats look like and to get our hands on them. So I assume these boats we all are seeing will all be returned back to Tige for them to use for R&D. I asked if I could buy the Black one our dealer now has and they said no its a demo and has to go back its not for sale and that's the case with the show boats. I would have to wait till there production boat comes in! So knowing that I am pretty happy with the quality being that a rush job to meet show times are all pretty small basic things I could see from a Get it done in time Job! Pretty cool they would spend all that money for us to check them out early at boat shows

So that is very assuring that Tige Will put all the love we all know that they have for TIge boats into the ones we can actually get ownership of. You all still need to get behind the wheel of one and see how much different the boat performs in the water!

So keep an eye out for a production model at the dealers. I cant what to check it out!

[jmoore15]

Can't say that sounds like great strategy to me. "We know these boats aren't worth buying but come look and rest assured we will have everything fix when we deliver yours"??? I really like my Tige's (on my second one) and as a Texan want to support a TX product but there is an expectation of first rate quality at these prices. Plus there should be an expectation to keep up with competitor warranties.

[Wickedcummins]

I think its pretty cool I can see the Pros and cons to it. I mean Id rather see it and the features sooner than later. And from what we have seen with Tige they release only good product to us. I mean look at the Z3. They sold I dont know how many with the first hull design then after they changed it they fixed or replaced everyones with the new style and they didnt have to do that.

I am sure they will be up to pair when the consumer buys its. I mean I watched a video on there boat building and they tell you have everyone is water tested and inspected. So I am sure when we order or recieve ours it will be as perfect as a boat can be!

[boardman74]

I have to agree, putting a poor product out for the boat shows seems like a not so good idea. Especially considering more people will lay eyes on those boats then almost any other boat made. You think they'd spend a few extra days to make them look extra nice…nicer than the average down the production line boat.

[Wickedcummins]

Would you rather not have them at the shows and have to wait?

I know I would not!

[luke]

Still doesn't seem like a good way to do business a lot of people may see this and never give tige a second look and buy a boat they saw that had great fit and finish !