Supras new surf system

[jzts0214]

What do you guys think of the new swell system from supra?

[Z3CO23]

http://vimeo.com/79996153

I gotta be honest and say I like it. Port wave looks a lot better than the goofy but it might just be prop wash/weight config. After watching the video I wonder if the actuators and all the stuff going on under the platform will cause havoc with the water. It might not though, the taps plate may force the water just past it. Regardless, I think it's a cool design.

[bherrm]

very washy wake with both setups.. i like where this is heading, but dont think this is near as clean as my RZR

[tigeidaho]

I think it's a cool idea. I like that more manufacturers are pushing the idea of wakesurfing. Is it just me or the camera angle, that wave seems short compared to what the other boats are throwing.

[chpthril]

From the "Wakesurf" section

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...ll-Surf-System

[sandm]

it's the same basic concept off mc's surf system which I believe was first seen on a sanger or supreme test mule 4 years ago or so. I do like how they moved the rams around to deploy the tabs further into the water. interesting to ride one.
several that saw it at the evening with the stars last night stated the hardware is very beefy. I can't tell if the platform is removable or if they are part of the hardware. that will be a dealbreaker for some that have to remove platforms for garaging.

waves look good tho. heard 3k for a msrp price. cheaper than some other surf systems.

[chpthril]

it's the same basic concept off mc's surf system which I believe was first seen on a sanger or supreme test mule 4 years ago or so. I do like how they moved the rams around to deploy the tabs further into the water. interesting to ride one.
several that saw it at the evening with the stars last night stated the hardware is very beefy. I can't tell if the platform is removable or if they are part of the hardware. that will be a dealbreaker for some that have to remove platforms for garaging.

waves look good tho. heard 3k for a msrp price. cheaper than some other surf systems.

Even if the actuator mounts are not part of the platform supports, they may be a hindrance clearance wise, for those that need to pull the platform to store the rig in a garage.

Id also like to see a poll done to see how many wakesurfers like a barrel in the wake. To me, it has the tendency to to grab your leg and pull you back when you get back there in the pocket.

[IDBoating]

Id also like to see a poll done to see how many wakesurfers like a barrel in the wake. To me, it has the tendency to to grab your leg and pull you back when you get back there in the pocket.

Exactly what we experience too. When I get that far back, I kneel the rear leg to get it out and under the curl until I come forward enough.

[talltigeguy]

It is a little tough to see for sure, but in some pictures of it I have seen, when it is fully deployed, the plate appears completely vertical. That is different from just having a trim tab on both sides.

[bspot]

It appears to act as a plow the same as the surf gate and NSS. Deployed on the opposite side of the wake.

[sandm]

it feels to me like surfgate has a tendancy to push the boat sideways where the nss and swell system seem to actually move the water around the boat differently. it'll be interesting to see how it plays out in court but feels like supra/cc have similar devices and 'bu is on a different road.

[trace]

Reading the captions on their Flickr page, for skim they are using them like surf tabs to help list the boat to the surf side. For the barrel effect they are deploying vertical ON THE SURF SIDE and then using the opposite side for listing toward the surf side. This setup is not being used as a delayed convergence device.

[WakerideN]

I always come back to life span of the actuator on these types of setups... What is the life of the product(actuators) based on wear and tear? not knocking the concepts.. just think what is the long term cost and upkeep?

[shawndoggy]

They are a couple hundred a pop, and they do fail from time to time. Malibu has used lencos on the powerwedge, and it seems like they start to fail at the 5 or so year mark? Not that all of them fail then, but some do.

[talltigeguy]

I always come back to life span of the actuator on these types of setups... What is the life of the product(actuators) based on wear and tear? not knocking the concepts.. just think what is the long term cost and upkeep?

Definitely no more problematic than the TAPS actuators, in fact, I think it is identical to the ram that Tige has used in some years. They will malfunction from time to time, but replacing them is not a terribly onerous job, and relative to the entire cost of the boat, not that expensive.