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    Installing an electric trolling motor on a Tige

    Okay.... now before you all laugh and point, I think I may be on to a good idea here, so hear me out. I may be a fool, or I may be a genius.

    I did find one other thread on this, and ironically it started the same way mine just did:
    http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...light=trolling

    I got this idea from my brother in law who runs a trolling motor on his patio boat. It has a primary outboard drive, but he sticks in a small trolling motor to power the boat on the small lake where it lives. The motor is locked in a forward position (stern drive) and never turns. Instead the turning is done using the steering wheel, moving the outboard like a rudder. Amazingly the boat handles quite well on calm days.

    There are numerous upsides to doing this:
    1) By not running the primary engine, you save fuel and engine hours
    2) No gasoline means no carbon monoxide (which also means no FAE needed for slow speeds)
    3) Emergency backup motor in case of engine or prop failure
    4) No loud engine to spoil a serene afternoon of cruising
    5) Use to traverse shallow channels
    6) Fishing..... something I don't do, but hey, you could.

    I may be unique, but I tend to spend a LOT of my day slowly cruising while sipping my favourite beverage. Running the primary motor makes noise, creates smelly exhaust and runs up the engine hours when doing very little work. I absolutely loved his trolling motor on that small lake.

    Now here is where my idea gets a little crazy:

    Between the swim platform of a new Tige, and the Convex Vx, there exists about an 11" hole.


    This hole would ideally fit a trolling motor such as this one:


    Building a small bracket, you could easily mount this little unit in the space (i.e. permanently). At high speed, the Convex Vx does what it is supposed to do and pushes the water down underneath. However at trolling speeds, this little bugger could splash away and produce thrust in the recommended depth of water. Steering would be done the same as before, with the primary rudder on your steering wheel. Thrust would be wired up to a knob on the helm.

    The only question is whether or not the motor would produce enough thrust and the water would move past it properly. I think it would. Tige did a nice job of creating smooth surfaces under the swim platform which should channel the necessary water flow.

    I think I'm going to try out this project, the only downside is that I will need to put a couple holes in the swim platform and I'm not sure what its internally support structure looks like. I'd also need to run wires through the transom, and drilling holes in my new baby is terrifying. I would also need to wire up some batteries to give me 24 volts, and I don't know how this all works just yet.

    Or I could just stop thinking up crazy ideas and sleep at night....
    Last edited by JohnnieMo; 10-11-2013, 09:20 PM.

    #2
    can you mount it upside down on the VX instead of the swim platform?
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      #3
      I'd look for a 12v version just so you dont have two different electrical systems onboard.

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        #4
        Originally posted by talltigeguy View Post
        can you mount it upside down on the VX instead of the swim platform?
        You can mount it any way you wish. As shown in the picture is its intended mount. This one is the EM80 and it is designed to mount on the leg of an outdrive motor. I selected it because it was small and it was not hard mounted to the control electronics.

        You could actually mount any trolling motor under there.... I talked with the guy at Bass Pro and I guess fishermen do this all the time. Just they do it with fishing boats, not wake boats.

        Another idea (if 24 volts is a problem), is you mount two 12 volt motors on each side of the platform. With two controls knobs you could create a skid steer system and likely get better water flow on either edge than in the middle.

        I don't think a single 12V would push a 4000lb boat on its own....

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          #5
          I would love to see something like this work. I do like to fish, and I always thought the back platform would be the perfect spot to stand and cast if there ws a trolling motor of some sort.

          Also, more times than not I worry about idling through shallower waters as well!
          Last edited by supremedevice; 10-11-2013, 09:47 PM.

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            #6
            If there is an 11" hole, you should check your brackets, I don't think your VX is mounted right.
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              #7
              The long term fuel consumption savings will be eaten up by the front end expenses of a proper battery bank to power the trolling motor and charger to recharge the bank.
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                #8
                I would never put one on my boat johnniemo. But if that's what you wanna do with the boat you just spent your hard earned money on, then who gives a sh@$. That thing is yours and do with what u please bro!! Still happy u finally got in the boat!!! I remember our PM's a couple months ago and I'm happy for ya.

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                  #9
                  so how are you planning on steering?

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                    #10
                    You are going to need a serious thruster to move a 4K lb boat with a 24" draft. Hell, even under its own power, these boats are susceptible to the wind and current when at idle speed. You're going to need a serious motor to overcome this. To that is going to take more then a 12V or 12V motor. Im thinking 36V. and to give you the battery amp hours to make it worth while, im thinking six 6V golf cart batteries. Then a charger to keep it up. I think you're looking at a couple G's to do it right. Thats a chit load of gas money. I dont see this boat steering with its own rudder while under the trolling motor power. The fact that they dont steer while in reverse due to lack of trust across the rudder, leads me to this. So you're going to need to use a tiller arm trolling motor or one that moved remotely.
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                      #11
                      @ragboy - I intend to check but based on the wave I saw with stock ballast I seriously doubt it. It was incredible. The hole in dead centre is about 11" but obviously comes up on the sides.

                      @jreisrzr - you steer with the main rudder just as before.

                      @chpthrl - if the costs skyrocket I won't bother. I will try with a clamp on motor before buying anything. We used a cheap 12 volt on the pontoon and it worked extremely well.

                      I realize this is a little bit wacko but if it works and is seamless I think it might popular. And yes, I do admit to being slightly crazy . Someone has to be the guinea pig. I bet half the hours on my last boat were under 1000 RPM.

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                        #12
                        it is highly unlikely you will be able to steer with the rudder, the rudder directs thrust, just as mike noted, in reverse you can't steer, when coming off throttle you can't steer.

                        it would be a major install with a major letdown...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by JreisRZR View Post
                          it is highly unlikely you will be able to steer with the rudder, the rudder directs thrust, just as mike noted, in reverse you can't steer, when coming off throttle you can't steer.

                          it would be a major install with a major letdown...
                          No doubt it's a possibility. Like I said, we will try with a clamp on first. On the patio boat it works remarkably well. Maybe a rudder has slightly less surface area than the outdrive. However I would think an inboard boat would turn easier than a pontoon. Those things like to go straight ahead.

                          You gotta remember, things happen very slowly with these trolling motors. It will turn, just not quickly.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by JreisRZR View Post
                            it is highly unlikely you will be able to steer with the rudder, the rudder directs thrust, just as mike noted, in reverse you can't steer, when coming off throttle you can't steer.

                            it would be a major install with a major letdown...
                            So my question is, How do sail boats steer with a rudder when they have no thrust?

                            If the boat is moving forward you can steer with a rudder. The slower you go the less responsive but you can steer.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Big Jay D View Post
                              So my question is, How do sail boats steer with a rudder when they have no thrust?

                              If the boat is moving forward you can steer with a rudder. The slower you go the less responsive but you can steer.
                              Yes, the speed/force of the water across the rudder surface does have an effect, so keep in mind we are talking about trolling motor speeds, not 2 sheets to the wind, batten down the hatches speeds. Next, compare the surface area of a 22ft 4K lb boat to a 22ft 4K sail boat. id say the sailboats rudder is 3x.
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