22v,ve or 24v,ve What should I buy?

[Utemachine]

I just sold my 04 Switch I and in the market for a new Tige. The most important thing to me is a decent wakesurf wake. I'd like to be about $35k and that's been putting me in the 05-07 22ve and 24v,ve. I like the idea of a 24 but worried about the weight while towing. Thoughts, input?

[sawyer1206]

We had had our '06 22VE for 2 years now and absolutley love it. We just replaced our 400# rear locker sacs with custom 1100# and are just now trying to dial in our wakesurf wake. I was trying to make the very same decision two years ago and am very happy with the 22VE. I tow the boat with a 2011 F250 Super Duty with the diesel and I have no complaints. I will probably start some trouble with my next statement. I would not attempt to pull a 22Ve or 24Ve with a 1/2 truck. Will it pull it? Yeah it will but if you are towing the boat any distance or over hills it could do damage to your drivetrain over the long term. Also in the year model range your looking for Tige did offer PCM engines and I would recommend trying to find one with the PCM Engine upgrade. Just my 2 cents.

[Utemachine]

Great insights, thanks. What was your surfwake like before the ballast upgrade?

[jacques2727]

Just pulled an 07 22Ve from Seattle to Edmonton (900 miles) with an 06 F-150. No problems whatsoever, and it handled the mountain passes very well, better than I expected. The boat/trailer come in well below the towing capacity of the truck, and based on some of the holiday trailers guys are pulling with half ton trucks, I wouldn't let the towing weight be an issue at all with the 22Ve.

[sawyer1206]

Great insights, thanks. What was your surfwake like before the ballast upgrade?

To be honest we never tried surfing with the 400# sacs. We have only had the boat out twice with since we installed the bags over this never ending winter and we are still trying to dial it in. On a side note there are a lot of Tige available out there without any add ons like Ballast and Cruise control. You would be better off finding a boat without factory ballast and adding your own aftermarket. You will learn from your own research that Tige did not get great reviews on their factory installed ballast systems in these year models. There are a few threads on here of people removing the factory tanks and installing aftermarket sacs. With that being said be very careful and don't over look cruise control. I learned that with the Marine Power engine it would be a $2200-$2500 install at the dealer for the Tige Set Point cruise. I bought mine with the PCM Excalibur 330 and it was a straight plug and play hook up for the Perfect Pass Wakeboard Edition GPS cruise control. I installed it in under an hour and it works great.

[bigtige72]

I've seen a couple 24V's here in the Northwest for sale in the $30 to $35k range. I really like mine, but it does take some weight to get a huge wave. I've got the factory ballast, and two 1100lb bags. I find its easy enough o leave one bag full, and move the other. I'm 6'4", and my wave is waist high! Plus, more room inside!

[Utemachine]

I've seen a couple 24V's here in the Northwest for sale in the $30 to $35k range. I really like mine, but it does take some weight to get a huge wave. I've got the factory ballast, and two 1100lb bags. I find its easy enough o leave one bag full, and move the other. I'm 6'4", and my wave is waist high! Plus, more room inside!

Do you know the weight difference between a 22v and 24v?

[loudelectronics]

Here are some pics of our 24V wake. I only hope our z3 will be able to push a wake this big. Once dialed this wake is a monster. We havesuccessfully surfed 3 riders at a time.

[bigtige72]

Do you know the weight difference between a 22v and 24v?

At the top of Tige Owners, there is a tab with model specs. It shows the 2004 24V as 4500lbs, and the 22V as 3945lbs. So not much in the weight... But definitely more room in the 24V!!!

[Dan and Christy]

If you can find a Ve definitely go that route over the straight V. The 'activity step' (or whatever they marketed it as) on the rear transom is a vast improvement on the Ve. Check it out yourself, try to put a wakeboard on behind each boat, you'll appreciate the upgrade.

[skippabcool]

I agree with going with a Ve. I was looking at both and about got a V. I then was looking at a 2006 Ve and learned that the 2007 had some differences, can't remember them all but that pushed me to a 2007. One was accuset versus speedset.

Here are some ads from KSL, you may have already seen them. I know your budget is around $35K, I would guess for a decent Ve you are going to be closer to $40K or over. If you look long and hard you might find one less, but may end up putting money in it any ways to end up in the $40k's.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...=tige&ad_cid=2
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...tige&ad_cid=10
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...tige&ad_cid=11

[talltigeguy]

If you can find a Ve definitely go that route over the straight V. The 'activity step' (or whatever they marketed it as) on the rear transom is a vast improvement on the Ve. Check it out yourself, try to put a wakeboard on behind each boat, you'll appreciate the upgrade.

That is true, the sloped transom on the V is a bit of a pain for shorter people (most everyone but me) when putting on a wakeboard. For surfing, I have a hard time thinking it is much of an issue because you are not sitting there banging your board on the transom like when trying to get on a wakeboard.

Do not get a 2006 24Ve with the first rollout of Tige's cruise control. It is pretty lame. My work partner has a 2006 and you cannot retrofit it with Perfect Pass. If it has the PCM engine, it would be OK, but those were the minority, most have MP engines in that year.

Dan, wasn't John tossing around the idea of selling his (my old) boat? That would be a pretty sweet boat for the utemeister.

This is the boat you do not want: http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...tige&ad_cid=11
He says it has Perfect Pass...but it has the Tige cruise. There is no digital readout, and a tiny light at the pad that tells you when it is engaged. No beep either to let you know it is engaged. Some wives will never figure it out. And when it breaks, you need a new keypad that will eventually go the way of the dinosaur. Then you won't ever be able to outfit any cruise control to it.

[Utemachine]

Excellent guys, this is exactly what I was looking for. Needs a little work, but this seems like a good deal. Although does this have Tige Cruise?

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=34939

[skippabcool]

Excellent guys, this is exactly what I was looking for. Needs a little work, but this seems like a good deal. Although does this have Tige Cruise?

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=34939

It will have the accuset, which was why I steered away from the '06 and what tall said you don't want. From what I have been told you can't change to perfect pass unless you do a lot of weird stuff then it may or may not work, in other words perfect pass is a no go. You could always call and see what perfect pass will tell you, they have great support.

[skippabcool]

Excellent guys, this is exactly what I was looking for. Needs a little work, but this seems like a good deal. Although does this have Tige Cruise?

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=34939

I just reread the article and noticed it has the factory hard tanks. You mentioned that you wanted to surf, to get a good wake you will most likely have to pull them out and fab up a new stuff to go with sacs. You can just add sacs on top of the tanks but you are not getting the weight in the back. There have been several other Ve owners that had the hard tanks and removed them. I don't know if the search is working but there were several done a year or so ago.