Weight

[boardman74]

I suppose I should eat the loss because I should have known the weights weren't accurate, right??

Dom I would hope it would be, but thats not what people are telling me. As I've stated by boat has pretty limited options, so minus the battery and fuel I should be pretty close to that 3100 lb boat. Tower nor stereo on an RZR are options, they are standard equipment.

I expect some of this stuff over on WW, but not on here. I had an honest question and concern and get treated like I am stupid for it. My family owns' a lawn maintenance/ snow plow company and I have availability to trucks. But I hate to have to be borrowing a shop truck every time I need to move my boat. Not what I intended or had in mind when I bought the boat I thought weighed 3100 lbs. Like I said if weight wasn't an issue there are other options we would have considered.

[houstonshark]

Just sell the boat and the buyers remorse will go away.

[JreisRZR]

The only reason this rumor was mentioned was for your safety, keep that in mind. Id still like to know the reason for the weight drop, if indeed the weight did drop 400lbs.

[boardman74]

Sparky you are right. First place I'm going when I pick it up in a few weeks is a certified scale. I have an email into Tige as suggested and I will see what they have to say.

Houston...Nothing to do with buyers remorse. I bought he boat 5 months ago..that period is long gone. Again why should I take a huge loss because the dry weight is incorrect? If it indeed is?

[boardman74]

Jreis and I appreciate that, but many on here act like I should have known the weight wasn't accurate. How would I, could I have known that. Why wouldn't I trust the manufacturers numbers? But since I dare question that apparently to some that means I have buyers remorse and should just sell my boat and take a loss, having never even taken delivery of it or put a single hour on it. Makes it worse when others state that all other models are accurate just not the RZR, because Tige is cheating the numbers for a few buyers in Florida.

Like I said I put an email into the suggested link at Tige. I will post up what they have to say.

[Ewok]

I didn't see the thread on WW, what are you towing it with?

[boardman74]

Never said their was a thread on WW. Said I expect this type of behavior from the trolls over on WW, but not on here. The weight variance was told to me by JreisRZR on a thread about boat lifts. I was talking about buying a 4000 lbs lift thinking that gave me 800 or so of room with the boat empty. He informed me the dry weight was 4000 or more and I would be over extending the lift. Like he said he was looking out for me from a safety standpoint and I appreciate that.

What does my tow vehicle have to do with wether the weight it accurate or not?

[Iwndr]

I suppose I should eat the loss because I should have known the weights weren't accurate, right??

Dom I would hope it would be, but thats not what people are telling me. As I've stated by boat has pretty limited options, so minus the battery and fuel I should be pretty close to that 3100 lb boat. Tower nor stereo on an RZR are options, they are standard equipment.

I expect some of this stuff over on WW, but not on here. I had an honest question and concern and get treated like I am stupid for it. My family owns' a lawn maintenance/ snow plow company and I have availability to trucks. But I hate to have to be borrowing a shop truck every time I need to move my boat. Not what I intended or had in mind when I bought the boat I thought weighed 3100 lbs. Like I said if weight wasn't an issue there are other options we would have considered.

Boardman, I do believe you are getting honest Feedback but your replies just seemed a bit hostile from your beginning post, calling out Tige as liars, then you continued down that path throughout the thread.:

"If this is the truth I think this is very underhanded and deceitful practice by Tige. It will put me and my family in a very unsafe position. AS our tow vehicle is rated at 4500 lbs. If the boat is truly closer to 3800 lbs and not the listed 3100, on the trailer I am going to exceed my towing capacity."


and talking legal action:
"Doesn't seem like something a company would want to do from a legal stand point."


What was your Dealer's answer when you questioned him on this matter? What was Tige's response?
Does your Dealer have an RZR he can weigh for you as you continue to wait for your boat?
It just seems strange that you come out flaming on them if you have not started a dialogue on the subject with them first.


This has been asked previously but what is your Tow Vehicle?

I hope this all works out well for you and Let us know what you find out and how you are actually treated from Your Dealer first and also Tige

[boardman74]

I have an email into Tige and my dealer is currently in Russia or somewhere on his way back from there.

Our tow vehicle is a VW van with a rated capacity of 4500 lbs from a 4.0 liter V-6. Not sure what this has to do with the weight of a boat? Why does that matter. So I can be told its a crappy tow vehicle and you can attack me for that? I'm sure I should be towing with a 3/4 diesel pickup, but that doesn't work for our family. Has served us well since 2010 and tows year round. We have used it within it's capacity as I thought I was continuing to do with the new RZR. It also has rear heat and A/C and 2 DVD players? Does that have a bearing on whether the stated weight of the boat is correct or not.

If you read my posts they start with if this is true..if this is correct...things of that nature. People say they have been told this by Tige...that they weighed it a certain way to stay under a certain number for some lakes in Florida. That is not an accurate weight...if that is true!!!! Would you feel better if I call those people deceitful? Also reference threads covering this that have been on here before, showing I'm not the first.

Maybe my language is stronger than some would like. I am sorry for that. To much sugar coating in the world these days if you ask me. What would you have me do? Just be happy with a boat I possible cannot use because the weight is not as stated? Sorry for ruining your otherwise pristine day. Unreal.

[Ewok]

I asked about the tow vehicle because the towing aspect as well as the lift weight was brought up but I was just curious what your going to tow it with. As long as your tow vehicle is bigger than a highlander I think you'll be ok, you in MN right? Pretty flat there if I remember correctly. My wife had a Santa Fe that she loved. I explored the possibility of adding a supercharger and beefed up springs since she didn't want to sell it but totaling up the mods to increase the 3500 lb tow rating would be very expensive and not a good option. She didn't want a big SUV (back then) so we test drove a 4runner and Pathfinder, each with a tow rating of 7,000lbs. We got the 4runner and it's been a great tow vehicle. I pulled my boat from TX up to WA with some extra weight that we didn't want the movers to break or loose, and it did great. I flushed the transmission and diff fluids when I finished the trip but nothing was burned and it's driving and pulling great to this day.

My point is, I was hoping to give you peace of mind that your tow vehicle is good enough to pull your boat and you are probably fine, but I would get at least a 4500lb lift just in case you have a ballast malfunction or some reason to get the boat out of the water with a full tank of gas and ballast.

[JreisRZR]

Tige isnt really lying though thats the thing. I'm sure they just weighed a boat with no options, which they probably didnt do in 2011 that 400lb difference is probably an alpha z, unlike MC and Malibu who probably weigh loaded boats to beef up their weights to keep the "my boat has more glass than yours" thing going.This however helps growing size restrictions and antiwakeboat issues

As wakeboats get banned i see this as a good thing rather than bad one, yea it sucks that your tow vehicle is only 4500 lbs. but im betting your rig will come in around 4500 lbs. Until someone can explain the weight drop or you get your rig weighed theres no point in keeping this thread going.

and like ive said multiple times if our boats actually weigh 900 and 1200 lbs less than malibu and mc thats a big problem...

[houstonshark]

When I bought my boat, I remember the weight listed being ~3450 dry. I have no doubt that my boat now is over 4500lbs. My Ecoboost and my wife's Escalade pulls it like nobody's business.

Not like NOBODY's business (which I assume is funded with handouts from Obama) but nobody's business.

[skippabcool]

Our tow vehicle is a VW van with a rated capacity of 4500 lbs from a 4.0 liter V-6. Not sure what this has to do with the weight of a boat? Why does that matter.

In your very first thread you stated that your tow capacity and that you ordered the single axle trailer to keep the weight down. From all of your previous posts before you bought the boat I would've thought that you had this figured out then. Not telling you to change your vehicle but typically it is recommend to only tow 70% of the rated weight, to each is his own. That still would put you over your 3100 or your 3200 loaded number. Unless you don't plan to put any fuel in it, jackets, ski gear, equipment, tools, use the trailer (trailer weight isn't included), etc..

Thats what I am saying. My boat is as close to bone stock as you can get. The only options I have to add weigh might be the stainless rub rail(if any) and maybe the swivel board racks. Also the battery wouldn't be in dry weight. I have the everything else standard. So I should come in around 3200 then in my way of thinking.

I am trying to get to the bottom of this so would like facts,not internet fallacy and gossip.

IIRC you have a connection with the dealer. I would've thought that the easiest would've been to contact them and see if you can weigh your boat to be exact, do you not have access to it? This would lead to not getting gossip from the internet that it seems that you turned to first.

I expect some of this stuff over on WW, but not on here. I had an honest question and concern and get treated like I am stupid for it.

You have seemed abrasive in your posts with the replies you have gotten and turned this into a thread you would see on WW. Just my two cents. If you argue with any and all advise you get what do you expect?

Is your next thread going to be challenging the amps stated output versus the real output and the safety of your hearing? This was sarcasm so that you might see the path you have taken on the weight.

Hope it works out for you so that you can enjoy your new boat, that you got a killer deal on. As well as your new home.

[houstonshark]

^^^

[houstonshark]

What I meant to say was:


I think the other one actually worked too!