Nautique NSS

[WakerideN]

Not to agree with whats was said above but your missing a few things. Yes that taps has moving parts, but with the CC now you have the center trim (equal amount of moving parts to the Tige) and then you add 2 more "trims" to get the same wave or worse. Thats what I believe they mean by more moving parts to break.

to clear up what I mean. is just that. the more moving parts you add the more chances you will have something break. I don't think the design concept is optimal. and for the record, yes there are still issues current day with folks that have the wedge. I ride with two different malibu owners that both had problem last year with their wedge systems. I stand by what I said.

[What she said]

Not sure why so many are negative about this product? It looks like a better design than the Malibu surf gate. If you store your boat in a garage like me, and have to remove the swim platform to fit this is a better product than the Malibu surf gate. The Malibu design is almost as long as the platform. The Correct Craft design looks way better to me! If it works im all for it! If it works everone will put them on there boats! We already have 2 very good inboard companys with them!

[ddubz]

I think the NSS is a great design. Looks like much more thought went into the NSS than the malibu design, IMHO, malibus design is terrible and looks like it would fail. The nautique design seems to distribute the force evenly across the transom, no large swinging gate. Looks to me that this could even be a design that could be an aftermarket part for most boats. Something like that on a tige, you might be able to barrel ride

[rensink]

I also don't understand all the negative comments but with that being said I don't surf a whole a lot about one out of 10 times out we surf. Everybody is claiming it's more moving parts to break which it is but in my eyes it adds more tune-ability, trick innovating now has a new direction, and also a level setting boat. I think the quick change from side to side is over looking the fact you can set your boat up to be level and with the flip of a switch surf one side or the other, when loading a boat to surf and it's fairly busy a boat listing to one side or another can be hazardous for beginning boaters/operators. I like the innovation that has been brought into the sport of surfing and boating from Tige, Malibu, and Natique they have all pushed the sport with their new surf systems. I look at it like the big screens (touch/button) some still dislike them and some like them but when the first ones came out everybody said they wouldn't last now a large majority of the boats come with them.. I have a feeling these are going to be around for awhile.

[boardman74]

Innovation is great. I'll post here what i posted over on WW and got flamed for it. My concern is that the thing works like a pocket door. Doesn't work up and down like a tab, but in and out of a slot. If you watched the video the clearance is so tight it's actually scratching the metal plate. So if you get anything in there(weeds, algae, little oxidation, barnacle, etc) is it going to jam up? Otherwise if it works great. Should give the same effect as surf gate without that huge paddle sticking out.It can stick an inch straight out and have the same effect. But there are now 3 hydraulic cylinders, 3 plates, 3 switches, 3 wirings, etc. Like said above more moving parts!

[tnvolgrad]

Agree with most of the comments - on a positive side I really like all the industry focus on surf. I thought I bought my last boat, but there is going to be someone who really hits a home run and I will pay for real innovation. Regardless of brands of how gadget"ey" it may seem,there is a tremendous amount of focus on the sport which is a good thing.

[rensink]

These remind me of regular sport boat trim tabs which have been around for a pretty long time and aside from the exception of "sh!t happens" there really haven't been many problems with them.

[Surf406]

i agree with wickedcummins all the way.

[dom w. forte]

I dont think it works the way you think, I beleieve it is the same as there hydogate, its fastened to the transom and slides out ward and down it doesnt turn, the malibu is like a rudder directing the water off the side of the boat , this appears to be a slide plate that creates a pressure drop behind an alters the wave, and if it is in fact like the hydrogate it is just as useless , if you ever drove a CC with the hydrogate you cant hardly see anychange, what gets me about CC is they always act like they were the innovator of just about everything related to the watersports, when in fact they are ussally trying to catch up to everyone else.
Take the TSC hull that came out in 1996 , its claim to fame was the reshaping of the spray coming off the sides with spray pockets at midship, yet Tige had massive spray control pockets midship in the 1991 and up , the only thing they can claim is the flight control tower.

[boardman74]

Dom,

Glad you see it too. Guys it doesn't work like a tab at all. There is a video on CC's site that shows it in action. It slides in and out of a pocket like a switchblade knife. If you watch as it comes out look at the tracks it's putting in the plate as it's tight clearance. I really wonder if it will jam if you get some weeds stuck in there. Will create drag like a tab but the actuation is much different.

I have driven Nautiques equipped with hydrogate and I agree it didn't seems like it did much. We will have to see if this does. There really is no replacement for displacement!

Not every innovation is all it's cracked up to be. I remember a company in the late 90's that advertised a system called TAPS that was as good as putting ballast in your boat!!! No extra weight needed for huge wakes! Not saying TAPS isn't awesome(love it) but it doesn't replace ballast!

[sandm]

Agree with most of the comments - on a positive side I really like all the industry focus on surf. I thought I bought my last boat, but there is going to be someone who really hits a home run and I will pay for real innovation. Regardless of brands of how gadget"ey" it may seem,there is a tremendous amount of focus on the sport which is a good thing.

^this..

I really thought that my 22ve would be my last boat for a lot of years, but then 3 months later we have the convex vx and now this.

keep it up and at the end of the day when that new innovation comes out that I just have to have, I hope it's not on a cc or mc so I can afford it

[WakerideN]

Agree with most of the comments - on a positive side I really like all the industry focus on surf. I thought I bought my last boat, but there is going to be someone who really hits a home run and I will pay for real innovation. Regardless of brands of how gadget"ey" it may seem,there is a tremendous amount of focus on the sport which is a good thing.

regardless of what i think. Innovation and doing new things is very awesome for the sport of wakesurfing. But I tend to think some ideas not as good as others. And in the end like the rest of the gadgets are they worth the added cost? individual choice I suppose.

I tend to think or the market focus is changing for all these mfg's. used to be multipurpose boat that can do it all. (I believe that was charlie pigeons ideology?) Tend to think those days are over. Used to say I am buying a skiboat. Then it was I am buying a wakeboard boat. So now you can say I am buying a wakesurf boat.

basically one sport is optimal, others can be done, but not primary purpose.

[dom w. forte]

regardless of what i think. Innovation and doing new things is very awesome for the sport of wakesurfing. But I tend to think some ideas not as good as others. And in the end like the rest of the gadgets are they worth the added cost? individual choice I suppose.

I tend to think or the market focus is changing for all these mfg's. used to be multipurpose boat that can do it all. (I believe that was charlie pigeons ideology?) Tend to think those days are over. Used to say I am buying a skiboat. Then it was I am buying a wakeboard boat. So now you can say I am buying a wakesurf boat.

basically one sport is optimal, others can be done, but not primary purpose.

No you have it all wrong, you have to say Im buying a Tige boat!!!!!!!!!

[WakerideN]

No you have it all wrong, you have to say Im buying a Tige boat!!!!!!!!!

LOL

[jbort]

I expect now that the wake surf segment is emerging from niche status and creeping toward increased adoption for reasons we all know and love that boat makers will continue to innovate and refine for better results and to keep up with each other. Gonna be fun to watch. Might be cool to see a hyBrid approach of the switchblade on Supreme, Centurion, or Tige hull with some adjustable surfgate approach to tune wave height, length and face transition for each) rider and in real time but uses less ballast.