Tige Wakesurf Device - BGB?

[WakerideN]

I am so dying to see the $$$ price tag on this one. But I like the look of it..

so far ragboy great write up. But for sure detail more on the WB side of things and what you see as well.

[ragboy]

I will get Raquel behind it for the definitive answer. My guess is it is the same or better.

[Timmy!]

One more thing, you keep referring to the TAPS settings but I see in the picture that you are still running your adjusted TAPS ram holes?

[Bruizza]

If you need a new swim platform this thing is going to be pricey. Probably not too bad to add on to a new boat order but pricey if you want to retro fit it. My dealer told me a new platform runs ~$1200. Add in the price of the device and you are probably looking in the $2000+ range.

[IDBoating]

Looking at it, I'm reminded of double-deck wakeskates.

Seems like it's just a shaped extension of the hull. I wonder what the interactions are. Would simply a longer boat with that hull shape achieve the same results? Or does lengthening the distance from the prop to the "transom" play a role? What else is important?

Like the SurfGate, I still don't think this is a substitute for displacement. It probably shapes the wave but by itself I bet it doesn't create much size.

[ragboy]

@Timmy Yes, it still works better for surfing on the goofy side, you need that extra down throw. IMHO.

[ragboy]

Looking at it, I'm reminded of double-deck wakeskates.

Seems like it's just a shaped extension of the hull. I wonder what the interactions are. Would simply a longer boat with that hull shape achieve the same results? Or does lengthening the distance from the prop to the "transom" play a role? What else is important?

Like the SurfGate, I still don't think this is a substitute for displacement. It probably shapes the wave but by itself I bet it doesn't create much size.

I have been thinking about this, and I think I would disagree. Its almost like you get the benefit of the longer hull but not the negative of needing a lot of extra weight. The wake was just better with this thing at our normal weight, and got better with more. With a longer hull, you have to weight it down more because it is also more buoyant. This adds the hull length, but without the buoyancy. Does that make sense?

Also, you can't leave out the impact it has on shaping/smoothing the wake and channeling the wash.

[mnpracing]

what about the stress put on the device by the water? Risk of pulling out or cracking the mounting points?

[Duncan]

I have been thinking about this, and I think I would disagree. Its almost like you get the benefit of the longer hull but not the negative of needing a lot of extra weight. The wake was just better with this thing at our normal weight, and got better with more. With a longer hull, you have to weight it down more because it is also more buoyant. This adds the hull length, but without the buoyancy. Does that make sense?

Also, you can't leave out the impact it has on shaping/smoothing the wake and channeling the wash.

As soon as water escapes from under the bottom off the boat, it will begin to rise up to the level of surrounding water (i.e., the carved hole begins to fill). This device seems to reclaim that two horizontal feet of carved hole that was formerly hiding under the platform and unusable. It must be several extra inches of effective wave height (measured from bottom of trough just past swim deck to top of wave).

[ragboy]

@mnpracing Its really damn sturdy, and I think Tige has thought that through, not to mention we are testing it harder than most.

[konajay]

If you need a new swim platform this thing is going to be pricey. Probably not too bad to add on to a new boat order but pricey if you want to retro fit it. My dealer told me a new platform runs ~$1200. Add in the price of the device and you are probably looking in the $2000+ range.

I would hope that they would have some sort of adapter to attach to different decks.

[houstonshark]

Maybe I missed it but is this still in beta form? If not, is there an ETA on it?

[Nobody]

Maybe I missed it but is this still in beta form? If not, is there an ETA on it?

The second generation will be class G/H and pump at least 1000 watts.

[Duncan]

Glass the deck and the BGB together in one unit, separate the interior into two compartments, and pump water into one side or the other of the compartment depending on wave side.

The above one piece rig would also provide a nice flat side to mount a vertical [[horizontal]] trim tab (fill both compartments) for quick switching of wave side. Given that the Z3 has such little lean to begin with, perhaps the trim tab would function on the wave opposite side just fine.


EDIT: vertical trim tab (ala SurfGate), not horizontal

Edit: of course, we are really talking about moving the prop farther away from the stern. The same or similar could be accomplished by simply extending the stern with some hull integrated swim platform (like on some I/O drives).

[Nobody]

Glass the deck and the BGB together in one unit, separate the interior into two compartments, and pump water into one side or the other of the compartment depending on wave side.

The above one piece rig would also provide a nice flat side to mount a horizontal trim tab (fill both compartments) for quick switching of wave side. Given that the Z3 has such little lean to begin with, perhaps the trim tab would function on the wave opposite side just fine.

Now this is getting interesting. I think Duncan's idea is very practical.