Price Difference

[Tanner]

Thank you for the % comment on resale Dom. I always laugh at the MC guys who say our resale is higher by 10-15K.... and I'm like hey dumba$$, your boat was $20-30K higher to begin with.


There used to be a big price difference between Tige and the others, and it was obvious why. The vinyl and other items definitely didn't compete. Now though.... they're definitely up to par. And go head to head with the likes of Malibu, etc. I think one item that affects cost is facilities, and location of said facilities. Tige got a huge tax advantage when they built their new facility. IDK if CC and M/C's facilities are paid for (I'm sure they are) but the land they are on and cost of living for employees is likely higher than in West Texas.

[labrat]

Thank you for the % comment on resale Dom. I always laugh at the MC guys who say our resale is higher by 10-15K.... and I'm like hey dumba$$, your boat was $20-30K higher to begin with.


There used to be a big price difference between Tige and the others, and it was obvious why. The vinyl and other items definitely didn't compete. Now though.... they're definitely up to par. And go head to head with the likes of Malibu, etc. I think one item that affects cost is facilities, and location of said facilities. Tige got a huge tax advantage when they built their new facility. IDK if CC and M/C's facilities are paid for (I'm sure they are) but the land they are on and cost of living for employees is likely higher than in West Texas.

X2, As Tige has improved product the price to the consumer has gone up dramatically. Who woulda thought that a Tige Would carry a retail price of close to $100k. Damned Expensive weekend toy.

[IDBoating]

Damned Expensive weekend toy.

Whaddya talkin' about, "weekend"?

[Dave S]

I am guessing the price comes from name recognition and bling factor. When we looked in 08 and 09, we looked at all boats available in Houston, as we wanted to be close to a local dealer when service and maintenance was needed. We looked at Mastercraft, Malibu and Nautique (as well as others) and had no interest in their prices or attitudes (cockiness) of the salesman. When we met Tige salesman and other Tige owners, they seemed to be more in line with the way we live our life. I don’t need all the extra bling, just a good solid quality boat that gets the job done. The people were nice, down to earth and friendly regardless of their life status. But then I drive an XLT F-150 and not a King Ranch F-350 diesel either. I would rather put a little extra in my 401k for later in life. I guess that is the type of person that I am. This trend seems to continue with this very site and forum. Now, I know there is a grey area to everything. However, I am getting a little nervous about the extra bling factor added to Tige boats over the years. I want a good quality boat that gets the job done and doesn’t say “hey look at me and what I have”.

[talltigeguy]

However, I am getting a little nervous about the extra bling factor added to Tige boats over the years. I want a good quality boat that gets the job done and doesn’t say “hey look at me and what I have”.

I agree 100%. But I think that Tige has found it more profitable to be closer to their competitors' prices. It wouldn't be until Moomba and Axis dominate that Tige will start making boats for less money.

[labrat]

Whaddya talkin' about, "weekend"?

Not all boaters live on a lake thus weekend toy. Putting children through college and other necessities has not allowed for a suburban home and a lake home thus weekend boater except 3 boating vacations. Skiing the Great Lakes is not an option. My wife worked raising our daughters which took priority over summer place.

I don't have a silver spoon.

Things being what they their is a family place with lake access that when kids were younger we would go to 3 times a month. Still weekend.

BFl at best 600 miles driving round trip takes time & money. So yes with maybe 60 weekend boating hours and and 72-108 vacation hours I am a weekend boater and with price increases from MC,BU, Tige, etc are quickly pricing me out of market. New boat pricing is crazy. If I keep a $70 k boat 10 years it probably costs over $5k a year to own plus boat fuel, tow vehicle cost and fuel etc. Because production of boats is relatively low, overhead, R&D and other costs get built into the MSRP causing boat pricing becoming crazy. It isn't just inboard pricing but even stern drives are reducing afforability. In my case renting or a time share maybe more practicle.

With say MC, BU and Nautique prices still being higher than say Tige their ressle numbers also appear higher for owners who keep boats more than a couple of years.

All the bling like Tige touch, electric assist on hatcnh covers etc. all add up and in many easy cause o over pricing. Take a wakeboard tower. Mid to high end tower that are tubular designs run $3k to $4k or more. I bet there is one heck of a markup;

Although I like my Tige I doubt I own another. To get a 2013 R20 equipped similar to my 20V I would spend almost $10k or more in a few model years Bottom line to me is that the cost of a new boat is becoming prohibitive if you have limited use.
Even the value line R20 anf Moomba's are too expensive for WEEKEND boaters.

[labrat]

I am guessing the price comes from name recognition and bling factor. When we looked in 08 and 09, we looked at all boats available in Houston, as we wanted to be close to a local dealer when service and maintenance was needed. We looked at Mastercraft, Malibu and Nautique (as well as others) and had no interest in their prices or attitudes (cockiness) of the salesman. When we met Tige salesman and other Tige owners, they seemed to be more in line with the way we live our life. I don’t need all the extra bling, just a good solid quality boat that gets the job done. The people were nice, down to earth and friendly regardless of their life status. But then I drive an XLT F-150 and not a King Ranch F-350 diesel either. I would rather put a little extra in my 401k for later in life. I guess that is the type of person that I am. This trend seems to continue with this very site and forum. Now, I know there is a grey area to everything. However, I am getting a little nervous about the extra bling factor added to Tige boats over the years. I want a good quality boat that gets the job done and doesn’t say “hey look at me and what I have”.

x2. Well said Dave.

[MoneyPity]

For the type of boater that I am as I have gotten older I no longer need a premium boat at a premium price. I still want to stay with inboards but I would consider saving money on what I call second tier boats like Centurion, and Mooomba because I can save big dollars. I don;t need bling. I need a 20-21 foot boat that will service me well over 10 years or more, comfortably seat 6-8 people plus 2 labs and provide grab rails for bow and cockpit passengers. Speedset is a nice to have option but we are not competition skiers so I can get used to manually controlling speed.
I prefer a boat with a 5.7L Vortec vs the cost reductions others are doing by going with 5.0L 303hp motors. The extra torque from the 5.7L helps us old fogies with bad knees get up. Sure ther are differences in constructions of molded fits verses shoebox but I no longer get a kick out of beating myself to death in rough water. I would rather save the money for retirement. People I know who have stepped down from MC,CC and BU have some regrets but overall are happy and would not spend the premium dollars.

[IDBoating]

Not all boaters live on a lake thus weekend toy.

I was thinking of all the folks who posted saying they go out in the afternoons after work and school lets out. See the thread entitled "How long does it take you to get on the water" or something similar.

All the bling like Tige touch, electric assist on hatcnh covers etc. all add up and in many easy cause o over pricing. Take a wakeboard tower. Mid to high end tower that are tubular designs run $3k to $4k or more. I bet there is one heck of a markup

Totally agree. When I put a tower on my previous boat it was rock solid, beautiful, and cost me ~$850 shipped to my door - and I did the work myself. I'm definitely not into the "bling". Example: I was shocked when I saw MasterCraft's electrically controlled waketower. That's just dumb. More cost, more complexity, more things to break down and repair. And it actually takes LONGER to raise and lower than a manual tower!

[WakerideN]

I agree 100%. But I think that Tige has found it more profitable to be closer to their competitors' prices. It wouldn't be until Moomba and Axis dominate that Tige will start making boats for less money.

only problem with that is... if you look at moomba and axis each year those boats start picking up features like thier sister brands supra and malibu increasing those prices as well. so I think not just bling factor, but options \ features is driving the increase.

just my worth.

there was one comment made that made me laugh a bit.. the one about people saying hey look at me. I see people in thier bayliners like that, so its not just the boat but an attitude I think in general of some peeps?

[dom w. forte]

I was thinking of all the folks who posted saying they go out in the afternoons after work and school lets out. See the thread entitled "How long does it take you to get on the water" or something similar.



Totally agree. When I put a tower on my previous boat it was rock solid, beautiful, and cost me ~$850 shipped to my door - and I did the work myself. I'm definitely not into the "bling". Example: I was shocked when I saw MasterCraft's electrically controlled waketower. That's just dumb. More cost, more complexity, more things to break down and repair. And it actually takes LONGER to raise and lower than a manual tower!

The electric tower on th MC is not as crazy as their electric guages that elevate out of the dash, I cant emagine whats going to fail in the mechanisum from a marine enviroment.

[dom w. forte]

Oh the other thing that never made sense to me , was electric shift, I can see coming out with something that improves performance, but we only move a shifter that moves a cable which moves the spool valve, making that function electric doesnt improve the function, and has a better chance of failure and more costly.

[talltigeguy]

It wouldn't be until Moomba and Axis dominate that Tige will start making boats for less money.

only problem with that is... if you look at moomba and axis each year those boats start picking up features like thier sister brands supra and malibu increasing those prices as well. so I think not just bling factor, but options \ features is driving the increase.

You are exactly right. Moomba and Axis are doing OK, but are not killing it by any means with their bare-bones boats. In fact, they usually end up being well equipped by the time the consumer buys it. Until the market shifts that direction, Tige will not go there, nor should they.

It seems that people that can buy a 50-60K boat don't have much trouble stepping up to 90K these days.

[Ewok]

The other factor for the "price point" boat is that consumers that have 40-50 to spend and want all the bells and whistles and bling can get a nice 2-3 year used boat and not really compromise, while a new boat in that price range will have zero bells and whistles. Most people think its dumb to get a new boat anyhow, Tigé is trying to entice folks to buy new with the 360 warranty but it sounds like that warranty is not transferable so I bet that is holding some back from buying a new Tigé or even buying a used one still under the original warranty.

[IDBoating]

The electric tower on th MC is not as crazy as their electric guages that elevate out of the dash, I cant emagine whats going to fail in the mechanisum from a marine enviroment.

Agreed! As an Engineer I'm into technology as much as anyone, but there are times when simplicity is the best answer. Complexity just to look cool is the sign of a weak ego. Apparently a lot of people with weak egos have money to spend on a MasterCraft, though.