For my 2011 RZR what have people found to be the best setting to achieve the best wake? I have the surf ballast (1600 lbs).
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Not sure whether you mean wakeboarding or surf wake, but if you mean surf wake, try this:
-Bow ballast full (400#)
-Add another 400# sac to bow (surf side)
-Surf side aft all full (600#)
-fill non surf side aft, hard tank only (250#)- may need to let a little out to help clean up wave
TAPS 1-4
Speed 10 - 12
This setup works well for us with 2-4 crew members in the boat, all sitting as close to surf side as possible. You may need to tweak this setup some depending on how many people you have in the boat and water depth. If you add more weight in back, try adding more weight to either the bow or midship (Surf side) to compensate. I got this formula from Allen Kendall(Squid)a few weeks back and it has worked well for us. We are always looking for ways to improve though. The secret with the
R20 and RZR hulls are that they need more weight in front, in order to lengthen out the wave. Too much weight in the back will produce a gigantic wake, but short pocket.
I'm sure Squid will have more tips for us as soon as he sees this thread.Last edited by konajay; 08-09-2012, 07:26 PM. -
Here is a pic of our wake using this setup.Comment
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For wakeboarding or surfing?Comment
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How about for wakeboarding?Comment
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For wakeboarding with the RZR, the best setup (not considering any people weight) would be:Originally posted by chadsanchez View Post
Bow - 100%
Rear - 25% (may be able to fill up to 50% but not over unless you have more weight or people in the bow)
TAPS - 2 (may need to play with it to see how it cleans up the wake or to get it to the shape you want)
Speed - 22 (slower, down to 21 is fine but, this totally depends on how comfortable you are. The wake will get bigger as you slow down but may also not be as firm.)
The faster you go, the smaller the wake but it may also clean it up. 23.2 is a great speed for the boat but you'll need a lot of ballast, especially in the bow to get the wake big. You want to keep the weight balanced from front to rear at around 50/50 or no more than 40/60 (front/rear). Don't forget to include people weight and deduct it from their location.
For surfing:
Bow - 100%
Surf side - 100% (have everyone sit on the surf side to start and then either distribute people or ballast to the non surf side as needed)
Opposite of surf side - 25%
TAPS - 2 (good starting point, any higher usually and the wake will get too tall with a short pocket)
Speed - 10.6
Speed and TAPS will need to be adjusted based on the side you are surfing and additional people weight. You'll notice the swim platform start to cut into the wake, depending on the balance. Add weight to the off side until you barely see it making a line.
I'll see if I can find some picture examples of these set ups.Comment
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Thanks a lot! I'll give that a try ...Comment
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Even more simple than Houston reccomends 100%ballast. 22mph taps at 3. 65 feet of
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Good luck with this Chad. I'd be curious to see if your boat will plane out with full ballast. JreisRZR is the only one I have ever heard of that can run with full ballast. When I first got my boat, it wouldn't plane out with 50% ballast in the rear and 100% in the front.Originally posted by JreisRZR View PostComment
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Here's the surf wake. FYI, I'm almost 6'4".
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Yeah my speed at 10.6 and TAPS at 2 is the best for us. I can ride that way even with 6 people in the boat. I fill the bow bag full 400lbs, the rear starboard hard tank full 250lbs, the hard tank on the port side full 250lbs, then I have an upgraded 1000lbs sac on the port side as well.Comment
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Something is wrong then.Originally posted by houstonshark View Post
I've had stock plus 500 in the walkway plus 7 people and still planed off just fine with the 1631and ex 343.
In fact this is how I set up my buddy's ski school rzr when doing board demos and got the same result as my boat, same motor, same prop same ballast. But what do I know, I've put over 200 hours on my rzr.Comment
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Trust me, I wasn't doubting you. My boat just won't do it.Originally posted by JreisRZR View PostComment
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I'm guessing the 500lbs in the walkway has a big impact on the boat's ability to plane out. My boat is currently weighted quite differently than when it was stock. I have between 900-1000lbs in the bow from the helm forward. I have an additional 250lbs in batteries in the stock battery locations which is as far back in the boat as you can get.
The location of that weight IMO has possibly 1.5 times, if not 2X the weight impact that the stock surf rear ballast has because it's so far back. This past weekend, with 3 adults (~450lbs) in the main cabin, plus my 2 boys (~100lbs), the boat would barely plane out, trying to pull up a 200lb rider with a 1235 prop, 75% rear ballast (~900lbs water plus ~375 in battery weight if you multiply the 250lbs of actual weight by 1.5).
Thinking through it, with this setup, I would actually be right around the same in terms of weight as your setup but with fewer adults. The wake was really not that impressive at 23.2mph where my friends wanted to ride. The wake was much bigger I thought when the weight was a 50/50 balance, including people and 22mph.
Here's a quick video I put together of a close call with another boat who was just putting along in the middle of the river. Here's the setup:
Rear - ~1275lbs
Bow - 1000lbs
People - 550lbs
TAPS - 2
Speed - 23.2
Rope - 65'
Rider - 6' tall
http://vimeo.com/46993770Comment
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