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I'm trying to gather info of RZ2 ballast set ups. What do you RZ2 owners have that you love? What would you change? What pumps, what locations? Which sacs?
I have 2 of the custom surf sacs, single 1 1/4" thru hull on the bottom and then a custom manifold with (2) Tsunami 800 pumps for fill. If I did it again, I would put my fill pumps on the transom with their own thru-hulls like Epic does it.
Ours came with 1100gph pumps. I suggest getting the highest gph pumps you can. We have the pro ballast set up and it seems to do everything really well.
I have the custom sac from Chp to install in the new 2012, but in the 2008 I ran two 1100 jumbo surfs in the lockers and a 380lb tub sac in the locker. This set-up was nice because it allowed the flexibility to do other sports (e.g. fill up the two rear jumbos for wakeboarding and load the tube sac and rear jumbo when surfing).
We'll see how the custom sac performs - I did notice at the wakesurf open Roberts boat felt like a gremlin under my seat when we stopped (e.g. water all rolling around in the one big sac). Kind of tough to compare his 24VE to the RZ2. With that being said the weight in a jumbo and tube sac is pretty close to the custom.
I have the Pro Ballast system and as far as weighting it's fine for both Wakeboarding and surfing. As far as custom sacs i don't have any experience with more than the 2000 lbs for wake boarding or the 600 lbs in the rear corner for surfing.
I started with the basic 900 lb factory system and just added w719s on top of the factory ballast. I have barely tried the surf wake and haven't tried wakeboard setups yet but for me it gives me the blend of plenty of ballast for me plus room for all my wife and kids stuff (and my buddys wife's and kids stuff too). I love all the storage in the RZ2, and the ballast to get some sweet wakes too.
2009 RZ2, PCM 343, MLA Surf Ballast, Premium Sound.
2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD W/Timbren SES
Oh yeah, the factory pumps in my boat are Rule 1000 with 3/4" hose. I added a fill and drain pump for the w719, I used Atwood tsunami 800s with 1" tubing. I can fill the surf side plus the 400lb bow sac in 7 min. I have the vent line from the factory hard tank plumbed into an extra fill port that I added to the top of the sack to help with fill times.
2009 RZ2, PCM 343, MLA Surf Ballast, Premium Sound.
2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD W/Timbren SES
I have a rz2 with no factory ballast. I currently use a rear seat sac in the starboard rear locker and a mikes liquid audio surf sac in the port side for wakeboarding. I fold the leg of the surf sac back on top of itself and only fill the main section. Then I fill a u shape bow sac and after the u shape sac is full i fill a side sac next to the bow sac on each side giving me around 1100 lbs up front and 1200 in the rear. When I surf I fold the u shape sac to the center and only fill the surf side along with the side sac gives me around 550 surf side bow weight. I have a 1 1/4 thru hull with a manifold running 3 1100 gph tsunamis with 1" NPT inlet and 4 1100 tsunamis for the drain pumps. The only thing I would do different is add a 4 th fill pump to the manifold so I could run 1 fill pump to each side of the u shape bow sac. The way I do it now takes to long. Also I would skip the rear seat sac and just use surf sacs in both rear lockers when wakeboarding and fill them completely. Everything is hidden and I have a good wakeboard wake and a awesome surf wave.
Timmy- Are you thinking rear intakes like duffy's for the priming advantage? I've been thinking a lot about that set up. It is definitely advantageous for priming. The only thing I don't like about it is the access (or lack thereof) to the thru hulls. God forbid you need to get to a ball valve in a hurry and you've got a couple full sacs. Having them in the V-drive bay is just so much more accessible, especially in a time of need.
I think this thread could be a really good resource. You know what it needs though? Pics.
Timmy- Are you thinking rear intakes like duffy's for the priming advantage? I've been thinking a lot about that set up. It is definitely advantageous for priming. The only thing I don't like about it is the access (or lack thereof) to the thru hulls. God forbid you need to get to a ball valve in a hurry and you've got a couple full sacs. Having them in the V-drive bay is just so much more accessible, especially in a time of need.
I think this thread could be a really good resource. You know what it needs though? Pics.
Here are some of my 08 - jumbo surf sacs in the rear and tube sac in locker.
Timmy- Are you thinking rear intakes like duffy's for the priming advantage? I've been thinking a lot about that set up. It is definitely advantageous for priming. The only thing I don't like about it is the access (or lack thereof) to the thru hulls. God forbid you need to get to a ball valve in a hurry and you've got a couple full sacs. Having them in the V-drive bay is just so much more accessible, especially in a time of need.
Well, Epic doesn't use ball valves. Believe it or not, the pump is the thru hull and then they put a screen on it. Here's the screen that you see on the back of an Epic: http://www.attwoodmarine.com/store/p...iner-Wire-Mesh
You have the nut on the inside of the boat and a nut on the outside and then this screen screws on over top.
I'm trying to gather info of RZ2 ballast set ups. What do you RZ2 owners have that you love? What would you change? What pumps, what locations? Which sacs?
I have a 1 1/4 thruhull with a manifold running 3 pumps and have never had a prime issue and I only have to close 1 valve in a emergency situation which is easily accessible thru the hatch in the rear seat
I got the surf package from the factory and then swapped out the 350 lb. rear locker sacs with the 600 lb. custom plug-n-play cubes from Mike (chpthril).
Since the top of the new cubes was higher than the vent and drain holes, I had passive draining issues. This winter, I re-routed the vent and drain lines to the opposite sides, and I'm hoping that cures the passive draining. I haven't been able to take it out yet to test it.
With this set up, the wake tended to be a little too steep and short for my taste (not enough pocket). I experimented with trying to fill just the surf side of the u-shaped sac in the bow (by switching the Tige Touch from Surf to Pro ballast mode and filling with the surf-side pump and draining the off-side). That seemed to be helping, but then one of the bow pumps went bad. Next time I go out, I may just try filling the entire bow sac and see what happens.
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