Z3 Wakesurf Wake STOCK

[ragboy]

your welcome, its too much fun.

[Duncan]

I mostly agree with that, except I think the list angle and burying the rub rail is about the shape of the wake more than anything.

I wonder if the distance from the Z3 water line (under surf ballast) to the bottom rear hull corner is about the same (or even more) as the distance from the RZ2 rub rail to the bottom rear hull corner?

Because the Z3 runs that deep at 8 degrees, there is more hull (from side to side) at the deeper depth so it will perhaps carve out a "wider" hole that takes more distance back toward the rider to fill in. As a consequence, the "bowl" of carved out water on the Z3 is wider and stays deeper farther back (i.e., push?).

The more list angle required, perhaps the less "wide" the hole dug into the surface of the water.

[TexAlamo]

RAGBOY, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO SHARE THIS INFO.

[neildorin]

What speed are you at in the video? I didn't see it listed anywhere the post or video.

We had our Z3 out for the first surf session today but due to water temp and weather conditions it was rushed. We botched your recipe pretty good and had surf side ballast full and the non surf side bow full and aft empty. I knew I remembered the Z3 needing a lot of bow ballast but overdid it a bit. Not much push in that configuration and the water was so cold I was just in a hurry to get to the house and a warm shower!

We're still getting used to the boat but love it so far!

[ragboy]

11.4. We usually ride from 10.8-11.6 or so, but 11.4 seems to be the speed we run 90% of the time.

[gruntster]

Thank you for the great post. Just bought a new to me 2012 Z3 after years of I/o and want to get my sons on the lake I’m a big dude and our boat only has the 1600lb system so realistically I’m either gonna need a 10 foot board or some more bags right. I’m 6’3 and 315 on a good day. Thanks again for your enthusiasm and your expertise.

[Germaine Marine]

Much more up to date posts bud, be sure to look around.

[trevor]

Thank you for the great post. Just bought a new to me 2012 Z3 after years of I/o and want to get my sons on the lake I’m a big dude and our boat only has the 1600lb system so realistically I’m either gonna need a 10 foot board or some more bags right. I’m 6’3 and 315 on a good day. Thanks again for your enthusiasm and your expertise.

Welcome to the Tige family! Lets see a few more photos.

I am a big guy, 6'4" about 280, and I ride behind my rz4 just fine with about 2600 lbs of usable ballast, and my boat is a little bigger than yours so probably requires more weight. Either way more weight will definately help, and I would email mikes liquid audio (chpthril on here), and mike can get you what you need to slam it harder. He will know what plumbing changes you need to do as well, if any, and can make a prop upgrade suggestion if needed for the additional ballast.

As far as you surfing, I would just make sure you get a big fast board to learn on. I personally started out with a 5'4" Liquid Force Rocket, which I have gotten just about everyone surfing on, but I think I am technically over the recommended weight for that board. It was really cheap, and the only person who we couldnt get riding it was my 6 year old, and I taught him on a wake skate, as it was much easier than the CWB Dash to teach him. A lot of people recommend the ringer xl or xxl by chaos, which is rated up to 320, and 360 and those are 5' and 5'4" which would feel smaller for you than a 4'6" board for a small person. That is the direction I will plan on going but havent pulled the trigger yet. Personally I would have thought last year that I wanted something cheap until I knew what I was doing so I didnt damage it, but you really can be careful, so I don't think it is too much of an issue unless you have more people your size who would not take the same care for it that will be learning too.

Ultimately, the most important thing is to get your wave dialed. Just adding more weight and slapping a suck gate to the side did not immediately produce something a beginner can surf on with ease for me. A ton of info on here for setups, but if possible get someone who has experiance setting up and surfing to go with you so you know once it is dialed. It took us over a month to get our wave just right, and once we did we were able to get just about everyone to go cordless. Would have been much easier if we had someone who really knew boats to get back there on the wave and say taps higher, let bow water out, move this person over, etc. You will find that just because the wave looks good doesnt mean that it is, and until you feel the difference between when the wave has great push, and when it has none, or a hard vs a soft wave it can really slow your progression.

What I will say for sure is you will have a blast! Buying a Tige is the absolute best purchase I have made. Everyone on here is really helpful, and last summer was the best of my life. My 4 kids, ages 1-6 talk about the boat all the time and using it is their favorite thing to do. Only problem was we didnt get in our pool once in August, and probably used it twice in December, but it was because we were putting 130+ hours on our boat in upstate NY. So enjoy it! Time with the kids, with no ipad or TV and them not saying they are bored is hard to get, but for us anyways the Tige sure does the trick.

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[gruntster]

Trevor thanks for the advice man. I have a 13 year old who is 6 foot tall and weight 200 an 11 year old who weighs 105 and an 8 year old at 56 pounds. I’m trying to find a catch all board that they can all learn on.

[gruntster]

Much more up to date posts bud, be sure to look around.

Thanks Elevated. New to this forum so any links or advice is appreciated.

[trevor]

Trevor thanks for the advice man. I have a 13 year old who is 6 foot tall and weight 200 an 11 year old who weighs 105 and an 8 year old at 56 pounds. I’m trying to find a catch all board that they can all learn on.

Your boat looks great!

I would say you will probably need 2 boards. One for the 8 and 11 year old, and one for you and your oldest. You can pick up a kids board like the cwb dash for 200 new.

As for your board you will have a lot of options.

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