Tige R20 vs. Moomba Mojo 2.5.

[CameroNut]

For those like Robert and a couple of others I respect your comments and responses.

Clearly I like my Supra and am keeping her for years to come.

Clearly many Tige owners are loyal to the brand and for them thats great.

From this Troll I think Tige has really stepped up quality after 2009.

Tige is a very innovative boat manufacturer who continues to improve their product but it's MSRP is also going up. Depending on what you use your boat for the convex v-hull And TAPS are great. The Alpha tower was leading edge.Tige Touch also is leading edge.The R20 is an entry level boat in Tiges own words. I think they goofed a little in first release to market to keep price down by making Taps an option, not having a ski tow bar amongst other things.

I have spokento Tige reps about numerous things and I respect many of their opinions folks like Tony F.

When I bought my Supra there where many factors that came into play. I was looking at a 2007 TIge 20v (used, reference as the Candy Corn boat) and although it was in great condition I had concerns about vinyl issues but more importantly at that time there where no Tige dealers in my area.
I got a kick out of the Bayliner comment. When R20 was first announced after Tige rollout to its dealers in TO forum there where unfair comments about it being the Bayliner of inboards.

To answer a question and Troll I think Tige is a better built boat than a Moomba! But, depending on other factors Moomba is a good value for its price points.

Quality wise Tige has improved considerably in the last 3 years. Improvements in many areas of the boat. Nice ones to note are getting rid of the e's on the swim platform and some tweaking of the platform on the RZ2 and RZ4 based on feedback to improve surf wakes.(I think ragboy contributed here.)

I don't have a b-tch with Skiers choice. If I want more features and pay more then there is Supra. Otherwise the Moomba has less for less and for the user say who wants a reliable inboard at lower price point it is a choice that may give more expensive inboards a run for the money in there own ways.

[Ewok]

I got a look at the new Moomba Mojo 2.5 and I was pleasantly surprised when comparing the two boats. The R20 although nice is Tige entry level vs. MOOMBA entry level pickle for less money, more room, cool tower, cool color schemes and more features including a ski pylon, interior grab rails , platform entry grab rails as well as other key standard features for lower MSRP and out the door $$$.
Tige 5.0L vs. MOOMBA 5.7L.

Will the Mojo give the R20, FOR and maybe the PS2 rain for the money for the weekend warrior?

Excuse my typos in first post. I was wondering if the Mojo would give the R20, RZR and the RZ2 a run for the money.

I agree Tige has improved their quality. No doubt in my mind. To go along with these quality improvements Tige has had significant MSRP increases.

A 20 foot R20 MSRP for "Entry" level boat is higher than the Mojo which is marketed as entry level. I would pay premium dollars for a BMW that is used more than 8 days a month but for the weekend warrior I am not sure the comparison is fair.

As to wakes the average weekend users do not need championship class wakes.

Gas tank volume is not a measure of economy. Hull design, wake, speed and use all affect gph. Vortec vs. Vortec. With motors using basically same block and weight of boats being similar PCM vs. INDMAR are not going to have significant difference worth premium dollars. I have to admit on Tige non-stop level models they finally look like they fixed a lot of fit and finish issues, lousy vinyl and more on the non entry level on-boards.

Tige makes a good product true but in my opinion it is not worth 10-20k more when you compare key things important to especially a weekend warrior.


Have a good day and enjoy spending $65k or more for a weekend boat.

Quality is Masterercraft, Malibu,Supra, Nautique.
Tige is well built, but is it the definition of Quality?
Does bling equate to quality?
Moomba builds a very good boat for the price.

Tige<>BMW in the boat world and neither is Moomba.

For those like Robert and a couple of others I respect your comments and responses.

Clearly I like my Supra and am keeping her for years to come.

Clearly many Tige owners are loyal to the brand and for them thats great.

From this Troll I think Tige has really stepped up quality after 2009.

Tige is a very innovative boat manufacturer who continues to improve their product but it's MSRP is also going up. Depending on what you use your boat for the convex v-hull And TAPS are great. The Alpha tower was leading edge.Tige Touch also is leading edge.The R20 is an entry level boat in Tiges own words. I think they goofed a little in first release to market to keep price down by making Taps an option, not having a ski tow bar amongst other things.

I have spokento Tige reps about numerous things and I respect many of their opinions folks like Tony F.

When I bought my Supra there where many factors that came into play. I was looking at a 2007 TIge 20v (used, reference as the Candy Corn boat) and although it was in great condition I had concerns about vinyl issues but more importantly at that time there where no Tige dealers in my area.
I got a kick out of the Bayliner comment. When R20 was first announced after Tige rollout to its dealers in TO forum there where unfair comments about it being the Bayliner of inboards.

To answer a question and Troll I think Tige is a better built boat than a Moomba! But, depending on other factors Moomba is a good value for its price points.

Quality wise Tige has improved considerably in the last 3 years. Improvements in many areas of the boat. Nice ones to note are getting rid of the e's on the swim platform and some tweaking of the platform on the RZ2 and RZ4 based on feedback to improve surf wakes.(I think ragboy contributed here.)

I don't have a b-tch with Skiers choice. If I want more features and pay more then there is Supra. Otherwise the Moomba has less for less and for the user say who wants a reliable inboard at lower price point it is a choice that may give more expensive inboards a run for the money in there own ways.

Ok, your first and second post above had me scratching my head. You were asking about comparing the r20 with the mojo and it sounded as if you were going to buy one or the other based solely on price. Then on your second post you bash Tige, claim they are overpriced and we are all dumb for buying one unless we are pro level riders. Then your last post you calm down a little, talk nice about Tige, sort of, and make the claim about value for Moomba again.

No one here would dispute the fact that you get more boat for the money with Moomba, no one here hates on Moomba, no one here hates on other boat brands either. There might be some rib poking in good fun but there are many well respected TO members with other brands of boats, and that's cool since we all like boats no matter what.

My point is, why did you start this thread in the first place? If you wanted to have a discussion about the various entry level boats across the industry, say R20 vs Axis A20 vs 20' Moomba vs 20' MB and the various merits of each that would have been an interesting thread. But the first post came across as if you were comparison shopping the mojo against the r20, then bashed Tige for no reason in your second post. If that was your intention, congrats, you got us riled up, if it wasn't, please use more care when posting.

[houstonshark]

The R20 is an entry level boat in Tiges own words. I think they goofed a little in first release to market to keep price down by making Taps an option, not having a ski tow bar amongst other things.

I agree with you here, I think. I was a little disappointed when I first saw the R20. I felt like they just took a RZR and 'cheapened' every aspect of it so that they could call it entry level. At an average price of ~$50k though, I'm not sure that was fair but because they were using the same platform as the RZR they had to.

Your other comments are all over the place and the idea for this thread in the first place just doesn't make sense. Moomba is an entry level brand and the R20 is an entry level boat. That alone doesn't make them comparable, especially since you are saying the Mojo is cheaper (which I doubt).

[robert theisen]

Now i know where your coming from.The Moomba Mojo is alot of boat for the money.I know several people who own them[moombas].Every one of them said basically the same thing."I couldn't justify the price difference for what i use the boat for"or "How often i use the boat".It's a value boat among wakeboats.It's not a Bayliner.Those and my[sour grapes] comments were a result of your tige quality statement.For that i apologize.Let us know if we can help with comparisons to other boats.As for the Mojo,it's a new model and i only know what i've read.Maybe someone on the forum has been in one.

[Nobody]

no one here hates on Moomba, no one here hates on other boat brands either.

Nobody hates Moomba and other boat brands too.

Maybe someone on the forum has been in one.

Nobody has never been in one.

[Nobody]

Would this be a fair competitor to the R20???

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=32123


Nicely Equipped 20' Moomba with 3-Bag Ballast, Wakeplate, Cover, Swivel Board Racks and More.

Boat Vitals
Length Feet 20
Width 95''
Draft 22''
Capacity 12
Engine 330 HP Indmar
Drive V-drive
Fuel 30

[Ewok]

Yes

[WakerideN]

I am with ewok.. why bother posting in the first place.. makes as much sense as having a chevy and going to the ford forum and comparing the mustang(tige) to the chevette...

I owned 3 Moombas.. and grew up (wallet and all)... now I own a tige... nough said?

I could go on all day long and compare.. but to save all of you time I wont. the above says it all.

anyhow.. good reading for those that came in 3 pages later...haha

[Kight & Christine]

Shouldn’t just posting this end this forum Tige = PCM Marine Engines

PS I have a Tige R20 that I can’t wait until April to get it De-Winterized I also have a BMW 650 that is currently at best choice auto shop in Dallas Texas getting the transmission redone it only has 67thousand miles on it I’m not giving you a hard time dude but you should try to rethink what you know BMW is crap and so is Moomba and I didn’t buy the beamer Christine did before we got together

[chpthril]

Tige makes a good product true but in my opinion it is not worth 10-20k more when you compare key things important to especially a weekend warrior.

Im not trying to call you out, but there is no way in hell that an R20 could be 10K more then a Mojo, even if Moomba still carries the 25% markup that they used to! There are not enough available options to put on it. I was just at a boat show on Sat. There was an RZR and a Mojo, and I swear they were not too far apart.

What about trailer, was one included in each? where both tandem axle? How where the trailers optioned? A blinged out trailer could easily add 2-3K above a standard trailer.

There are also other options that could effect the price: Stereo, ballast upgrades, custom hull colors.

Since the Moomba is a price-point line, I think one could compare the Tige R20 to the Mojo on most aspects, just not size.

[houstonshark]

Shouldn’t just posting this end this forum Tige = PCM Marine Engines

PS I have a Tige R20 that I can’t wait until April to get it De-Winterized I also have a BMW 650 that is currently at best choice auto shop in Dallas Texas getting the transmission redone it only has 67thousand miles on it I’m not giving you a hard time dude but you should try to rethink what you know BMW is crap and so is Moomba and I didn’t buy the beamer Christine did before we got together

Throw in some punctuation every once in awhile and I think your post might be a little easier to read.

[Nobody]

Throw in some punctuation every once in awhile and I think your post might be a little easier to read.

Would you mean, like a comma, colon: or a semi-colon; or a period? That's old school bro! The mellennial gen doesn't do dat.

[houstonshark]

Nice, Nobody. I was thinking a couple periods would be good for starters.

I usually stay away from semi-colons myself. I've never understood the benefit, especially when you can just end the sentence and start a new one.

Oh well, back to bashing the Supra owner who's trying to compare apples and BMW's....JK.

[Kight & Christine]

Sorry, I was on my iPhone. Next time I post something I will realize there is an English professor on the forum.

[patryk]

I looked at the Mojo, Mobious and Outback before I bought my R20. You know what sucked most about the Moombas? None of the ones I looked at had snap out carpet, it's permanently glued. All 3 of those boats at the show came out to be more than my R20 as well.