I couldn't find the old thred so I started this new one. Thanks to this forum I got a call from Carlisle Tires. I am in the middle of geting some resolve from the two tires blowing on our way to Shasta in July. Come to find out that Goodyear made these tires and have as of today given me a claim number and asked that I submit all bills relating to this problem. Carlisle even though they had nothing to do with the manufacture of the tires are sending me a check for half of what I paid for the new tires. I will keep you all up to date on where I end up. Thanks tigeowners.com !!!!!