Can't throw the rope, don't want to blame the setup

[TigeMike]

My set up is a 98 pre2200i with FAE and a 4 blade acme prop. I have a 500# in the rear locker and another 500# on the port side of the engine (we ride regular). Usually 2-3 people on the boat. The board is a Hyperlite coex.

I feel like this should be enough and now its up to me to get proper form but wanted to make sure.

What should the TAPS be set at and whats a good speed? And, is this a good enough setup, or should I be moving the weight around?

I know the Inland Surfers are a much better brand but they weren't in the budget when I bought the boat, so I want to make the board I got work for now. Also trying to avoid having the floor covered with bags so its nice to hide at least one in the rear locker.

[TRD]

I think you need more weight. Check out this link, go to page 2 and start there.

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...t=11230&page=2

[skippabcool]

Post some pics of your wake and you riding. I do not know if your a bigger guy, average or little. I am 6' and was at 240# when I started and I did not think I would be able to ride ropeless. My buddy who is smaller was able to with out any issue. My board is a Hyperlite Broadcast 5'6". I found for me in learning I needed to spread my legs and get squatty. It made it easier for me to shift my weight forward. I also made sure that my toes were close to the edge of the board on the wake side.

Once we see your wake we will be able to tell if you need more weight. Good Luck.

[TigeMike]

I'll try to get a pic this weekend. I'm 6'1, 210.

Is there an ideal TAPS setting?

I'm really hoping its just my skill level. I checked the link and I am trying to avoid having bags upon bags piled up in the boat like that.

[talltigeguy]

IIRC, the Coex is a smaller board and it is going to be tough to freeride on it. You need some pics.

I saw a guy put up a short Youtube video on the MC site and it was obvious what his problem was after that. Seems like overkill, but it really helped him out.

[murphini]

Stand like a short-stop in ready position, shoulders over knees, balls of your feet and toes toward the wake like Skippabcool says. Most newbie riders naturally shift weight toward the back foot, like you do when you wakeboard. Wrong. Need it more even and slightly forward. Weight toward the boat to go faster, weight away from the boat to slow down. It's like being on a teeter-totter.

And you may need a different board. I'm 6' 200# and couldn't ride ropeless after many attempts on our original CWB Razr. Or if I did, it was 10 seconds or so. Then I bought an Inland Surfer BlueLake and went ropeless the first time.

And not matter what weight you have, you probably need more.

We surf at at 9.8, taps at 3 on our 24ve. Keep trying, it's a rush when you get it

[skippabcool]

I don't know how this compares to you or your wake but it looks like this guy gets slack several times, supposedly on a Coex.

[Surfdad]

The Coex is 4'4" long with very soft or round rails. That roundness keeps the board from catching on turns, but water wraps curved surfaces and accentuates drag, in this case making the Coex slower. The Coex really has no drive. As a comparison, my son's board is an inch longer, with huge fins for drive and it has a weight limit of around 180 or so pounds, with a solid wake. Bigger board, more drive and it's only recommended to 30 pounds less than your weight.

I've seen folks ride the Coex in the 200 plus range, but that board really isn't your friend. Any chance you can trade it for something bigger? It'll make learning to wakesurf so much easier and fun.

Pictures of James who is around 150'ish

[carcrz]

I'm 6'4", 190 lbs, and riding a CWB. I am just now getting to where I can go ropeless. I found the trick is to get my feet a little bit wider than shoulder width apart. Then squat down and run my hand through the wake, which makes me lean forward & towards the wake. I had a blast this last weekend just trying to find what was most comfortable for me.

[TigeMike]

Thanks for the tips.

As long as the weather cooperates, I'll get a pic of the wake this weekend and post it up. I'll make sure the gas tank is full too for that little extra weight.

Surfdad - I appreciate the technical feedback on the Coex. I can definitely notice the slowness and drag of the board. There is plenty of info out there on the more dedicated boards from the core wakesurf brands, but not much I could find on these cheaper boards. I knew I wasn't getting the best, but there was a $300 price difference between this coex and and IS Blue Lake.

[skippabcool]

I knew I wasn't getting the best, but there was a $300 price difference.

That was one of the main reasons that I started with the Broadcast, plus I didn't want to damage that expensive of a board learning. Then I found another option.

As an alternative check out this link:

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16010

[Surfdad]

It's too bad that some folks summarily dismiss the wakeboard company boards. It's misleading in some instances. I'd echo the sentiments of skippabcool, talltigeguy and murphini. The 5'6" broadcast is really a good choice for getting started for adults. Much better than the Coex. It's heavy so is easy to sink for getting up, sharp rails shed that water wrapping drag, and interestingly enough it has TONS of flex. If you push on it, it's almost floppy, that flex gives you more break strength so there's increased durabilty. It's also really cheap and almost scary easy to find. Do you think you could sell the Coex and get a nice 5'6" Broadcast? It would be a good investment as a boat board in the future.

I like Lakewakes, Mark is a nice guy.

[TigeMike]

Surfdad - I agree with you. Most of my information came from the wakesurf forum on WW and I guess most of those guys are core wakesurfers and frown upon the big companies, LF, HL or CWB putting out boards. Inland Surfer seemed to be the most recommended brand, blue lake or squirt.

I'll keep an eye on sales on those Broadcasts as it gets colder out. Saw what looks like a good deal on a IS mucous (sp?) on evo gear, but don't know anything about those.

I'm also going to try and get a pic of the surf wake this weekend with how I currently set it up.

[skippabcool]

I'll keep an eye on sales on those Broadcasts as it gets colder out.

Here is your chance, check this out - http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/show...477#post539477

If it is true the 2011 Hyperlite Broadcast 5'6" is $289 - 40%. That is a good deal.

I wish I could have gotten that great of a deal on mine.

[jrobertson]

Boards and TAPS setting do all matter. The most important things you need to surf are weight and lean. 1000# is some weight, but we run 1400# surfside rear and 700# front. You gotta get the wave and it has to be clean, then you can strat dialing the TAPS. TAPS will do nothing but clean up your wave. NOW the board becomes important