I am wondering if it is possible to order a RZ2 with a reverse prop rotation as 90% of the time it will be used for goofy riders?
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That is only needed on other boats. The wake on both sides of our tiges are virtually identical. Take a look at our videos, the same. Tige and Sanger are about the only I know where it is so much the same.
Keep in mind that I am referring to the 22 and 24 foot boats. RZ2, RZ4, 22V, 22Ve, 24V, 24Ve.http://wake9.com/
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Seeing as how this discussion is done covered, let's get to something else. Wakesism.
Goofy side? Regular side? All thing considered, these terms should not exist. Goofy/Regular has only to do with which foot you have forward. It has no bearing on which way a wave breaks. Is Pipeline a Goofy wave and Backdoor a Regular wave? I think not. The only applicable terms, by logic, are Port or Starboard. Can a man not be a backsider by nature?
Don't be a Wakesist.You'll get your chance, smart guy.
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Maybe I should give more context. I currently own a 2008 Centurion Avalanche. We ride with about 2300 pounds including people. Lots of push, lots of wash and short wave.
Have seen all of the wake 9 vids, nice job Ragboy, helps a lot. Have also seen all the custom work Duffy has done both with his avy and tige.
I am going to buy a new boat and have narrowed the search to a reverse prop Enzo 233, an RZ4, or an RZ2.
Love the size of the RZ4, test drove one 2 days ago, beautiful boat! Filled the pro ballasts tried all kinds of taps settings, still not enough push to stay in the pocket, and wave was short. I have read what Ragboy has done to his 24VE, can that be done to the RZ4? Makes me wonder how they could be called Pro ballasts if you can't really surf it?
When we were on the test drive the salesman said (young guy who surfs more than sells) said with the Tige RZ4 if you put weight in both sides it will help the regular side but add lots of wash to the goofy side. This is what got me thinking maybe tige makes a reverse prop boat for goofy riders like the Enzo.
I want a close to competition sized wake without sacs on the seats. Know you are going to say just get the RZ2 but the size of the RZ4 is what we really want.
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Originally posted by NICKYPOO View PostSeeing as how this discussion is done covered, let's get to something else. Wakesism.
Goofy side? Regular side? All thing considered, these terms should not exist. Goofy/Regular has only to do with which foot you have forward. It has no bearing on which way a wave breaks. Is Pipeline a Goofy wave and Backdoor a Regular wave? I think not. The only applicable terms, by logic, are Port or Starboard. Can a man not be a backsider by nature?
Don't be a Wakesist.
all kidding aside, look at pro surfing, they ride healside or toeside based on the break, theres no "goofy" waves and "regular" waves. Waves are waves, ride em!Joey - Red 20V Riders Edition
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Originally posted by Ronan View PostMaybe I should give more context. I currently own a 2008 Centurion Avalanche. We ride with about 2300 pounds including people. Lots of push, lots of wash and short wave.
Have seen all of the wake 9 vids, nice job Ragboy, helps a lot. Have also seen all the custom work Duffy has done both with his avy and tige.
I am going to buy a new boat and have narrowed the search to a reverse prop Enzo 233, an RZ4, or an RZ2.
Love the size of the RZ4, test drove one 2 days ago, beautiful boat! Filled the pro ballasts tried all kinds of taps settings, still not enough push to stay in the pocket, and wave was short. I have read what Ragboy has done to his 24VE, can that be done to the RZ4? Makes me wonder how they could be called Pro ballasts if you can't really surf it?
When we were on the test drive the salesman said (young guy who surfs more than sells) said with the Tige RZ4 if you put weight in both sides it will help the regular side but add lots of wash to the goofy side. This is what got me thinking maybe tige makes a reverse prop boat for goofy riders like the Enzo.
I want a close to competition sized wake without sacs on the seats. Know you are going to say just get the RZ2 but the size of the RZ4 is what we really want.
Here is the thing on the RZ2 vs the RZ4. If you want a great wake, world class, but want to stay in the "safe weight" zone, as in the limit on the sticker, then the RZ2 is the boat you should get. You will get right to that limit, but with that amount of weight its a Contest level wake. IMHO.
The RZ4 is a more recreational wake, not as much push/power, not as big unless you REALLY weight the sucker, and you will go over the weight limit.
The RZ2 is just a matter of buying the boat with the PRO system, and swapping out the sacs it has with bigger ones. That's it, incredible wake. The RZ4 can out do that wake, but with mods and a lot of weight.
Does that make sense? Bigger is not always better. The 22 foot boot is the sweet spot for good wake and reasonable weight. The 20 foot boats are narrower and produce a steeper wake with a more abrupt transition. So the 22 is full 102 beam, nice transition, not too steep, although still steep for some. Skim boarders like a mellower wave.
HTHhttp://wake9.com/
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Originally posted by Ronan View PostI want a close to competition sized wake without sacs on the seats. Know you are going to say just get the RZ2 but the size of the RZ4 is what we really want.
Or get the RZ4 and be preared to do significantly more ballast work. Bigger boat, needs more weight.
Straight forward decision making process. It is unfair to look at Wake9 or Duffy's vids and expect those waves out of a near stock configuration. Those 24s are heavily modified; hence the world class waves.
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I think what Ragboy is saying is that with a 22' boat you will get a bigger/better wave then a 24' boat using equivalent weight because a 22’ boat has less displacement or surface area on the water so a 22’ will sit deeper in the water then a 24’ with same weight which equals a bigger wave since they both have the same beam, if that helps?Friends don't let friends POWERTURN
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