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    55k and im pissed and I dont care

    A few months ago we decided we would buy a boat. We looked at a few used Mastercrafts and Malibus and finally decided it was worth the significant extra cost to buy a new boat because, although we have been on numerous friends’/family’s boats over the last 15 years, we didn’t really know much about the mechanics of a boat. It was a reasonable assumption that if we spent the extra money for a new boat that we wouldn’t have to worry about anything going wrong for a long time, and if it did we would have a comprehensive warranty to cover any problems.
    So after much research and Jonathan thinking back on his childhood when his father owned a Tige and he and his friends learned to wakeboard on a Tige, we decided a new Tige would be perfect. We went to Eagle Marine in Fort Worth to look at the R20, but unfortunately weren’t really happy with the color/option combinations of the boats on the showroom floor. After looking at tige.com, we were excited to find out we could custom order a new Tige and choose our own colors and options. And this is just the beginning of when we started questioning our decision to buy a new Tige. We called Eagle Marine the next day, and Ken said I must have been mistaken because we couldn’t special order an R20. I looked online again, and then called a dealer in Houston, who confirmed we could special order an R20. So perhaps Ken just didn’t want to bother with a special order and really wanted us to buy the bright orange R20 that’s still sitting in his showroom floor– and at this point I almost wish we had done that.
    So long story short, we did order a new R20 from Eagle Marine. We picked all of the options we wanted, signed a contract, paid our deposit and went home happy. The next day we received a call that a depth finder wasn’t included and would cost another $550. Then the day after that we were told we couldn’t get the stereo remote on the back of the boat, as we had ordered. At this point, we were skeptical and nervous as to why this wouldn’t be known by our sales rep when we placed our order.
    Fast forward to the day we picked up our boat. I talked to Ken several times, and specified with him that we have never driven a boat ourselves, trailored a boat, parked a trailer, etc. He said it would be best if we came on a weekday because we could spend as much time as we wanted during our test drive, so we both took a vacation day on a Wednesday. I told Ken we would be there at 10am, and at 9:50am I received a call from Ken asking where we were because “we are on a extremely tight schedule today”. I told him we were 10 minutes away as planned, and once we arrived at Eagle Marine we were hurried through our test drive. If you are spending $55K on a boat that you custom ordered, I don’t think it’s acceptable to be rushed through a test drive. We hoped we learned enough before we left Eagle, and then Ken insisted that we save his cell phone number so we were comforted we would have an expert resource at our disposal if anything should go wrong.
    So first time out on the lake, after wakeboarding for 15 minutes one of our friends was knocked in the head by a wakeboard that was secured in the racks. The bracket that attaches the racks to the tower detached and luckily our friend didn’t require any immediate medical assistance because he noticed what was happening right away. He had only a small gash on his head, but our brand new boat now has numerous scratches. We were able to recover the board and bracket, and figured it must be a crazy fluke that would never happen again, so we strapped our second board to the rack on the other side. We tried calling Ken several times on the cell phone that he gave us plus Eagle Marine’s main number but no one answered even though it was during business hours. Thirty minutes later if would you believe it the same thing happened on the other rack, but now two boards are swinging and smacking against the boat. After retrieving our boards we figured this was another crazy accident that should have never taken place so we decided to call it a day.
    We were driving back to our dock at approximately 20-25mph and the boat completely stopped. We checked everything possible and read all of the troubleshooting sections of the Tige manual with no avail. We called Ken on his cell phone and again there was no answer. Luckily we also had Ben’s (Tige’s owner’s son) cell number and he answered immediately. He walked us through numerous checks and tests and eventually we discovered it was a fuse that was loose. If it hadn’t been for Ben answering his phone and being so willing to help who knows how long we could be stranded out there!
    We got back to the dock, trailered the boat to storage, cleaned it, and parked it. We finally were comfortably sitting at the dock restaurant and Ken called us back (about 5 hours after we originally called him). I explained everything we went through on our first day on the boat and was shocked by the reception I received. I don’t work in sales, but I know if you sell someone something that they are unhappy with you apologize, even if the issues aren’t directly your fault. Ken seemed like he was annoyed that I had contacted him. He said “well just bring it in on Tuesday” and when I told we work and can’t just drive an hour each way he didn’t really say anything. I asked him how this could have happened and he said something about the screws hadn’t been put in the tower correctly at the factory. When I told him there were no screws in our tower and asked how long the repair would take and he said he had no idea. I then told him about the engine quitting in the middle of the lake, and he said “well the boats are built by humans so mistakes can happen”.
    There was nothing else to do but laugh off this statement. My computer, cell phone, refrigerator, and even our cars are made by humans, but I have never bought anything brand new and had any problems, let alone such a terrible experience that my sales rep didn’t seem to care about.

    PS. Jonathan worked in the auto industry for 6 years and every time he sold a new vehicle the customer was asked to fill out a satisfaction survey, which directly affected bonuses, dealership, and whether or not people could keep their job.

    #2
    Lame. Sorry about your troubles. I'd be pissed too. Sounds like your dealer half asses their way through it. Your sales guy sounds like he's not cut out for sales. I could see someone like that dropping the ball all the way through the process, making it nearly impossible for the rest of his support staff to put out a top flight project in one shot. He is a project manager and he needs to make sure everything happens right the first time, from ordering to shipping to rigging to run out to detailing to delivery to follow up and as a contact for the rest of that boats life.

    Chit is gonna happen but, how you fix it is the true measure of merit.

    Of course this is all speculation on my part and should be taken with a grain of salt.
    Last edited by NICKYPOO; 06-26-2011, 07:43 AM. Reason: Clarification of my full of shitness.
    You'll get your chance, smart guy.

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      #3
      Wow 11 different threads all the same complaint..really?

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        #4
        Originally posted by kko View Post
        Wow 11 different threads all the same complaint..really?
        This user needs a new section called, "I can't figure out where to post all my negativity". 11 times seems more like spam

        I've bought plenty of stuff that got home and chit was missing out the box or wouldn't work. As long as the manufacture will take care of the problem, seriously what else can you ask for? I would email Tige directly and speak with someone from there because they have been nothing but courteous and more than willing to help me out with any problems.

        BTW Most electronics, appliances, and all automobiles are built pretty much on some form of automated assembly line and the only human involvement is from the engineers that program and maintenance the machines (this coming from an experienced Electronic Engineer). I think comparing your Tige is far different from any household appliance or cell phone. It was just a fuse, could have been way worse

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          #5
          This folks is why you don't let your wife post for you.
          She has competley gone over the deep end.
          Formertigeowners.com
          I used to be a member in the past.

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            #6
            HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa MOOOOBA you’re a loser

            Looks like you shoulda' bought a Moomba.

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              #7
              I guess you think Moomba's are perfect.If they were they would be Number 1 in sales and satisfaction.No boat is perfect all need adjustments and fixes from time to time.Nothing gets accomplished by complaining on here you have to work with the people you just ran over with your rant bus and then backed over with the negative sarcastic bus.I would imagine they need a little time to heal before they are willing to try again.
              I do all my own stunt work. hey ya'll watch dis.

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                #8
                You can't compare a car dealership or manufacturer to tige ,these boats are actually built by people by hand and aren't produced in the tens of thousands but the tens or twenties and the salesman (ken know him well) doesn't do dog and pony shows just straight forward deal with you deciding yes or no ,you might try to talk to Dakota or Jeremy about some boating lessons they do demos .I feel your pain as my first trip out had same rack problems and some other issues and when gave e.m. the opportunity to make it right they did as fast as possible which I'm sure they will with you ,boat dealers are not like car dealerships they're a vendor selling a product produced by a small company .I think you'll find that you'll reach your goal faster with sugar instead of salt.concerning some boating demo I would be willing to meet you at ray Roberts lake and show you all I know about loading and unloading,tiges and future upgrades .ps e.m. has alaways had my back since purchace

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                  #9
                  For the record, I would like to state that at the time of my response, there was only one thread. Had I known that the amount of threads that were going to pile up were going to be so excessive, I probably would have approached it a little differently.
                  You'll get your chance, smart guy.

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                    #10
                    I empathize with your challenging experience. However, why the repeated posts? Enough already!!!

                    This forum is populated with helpful, competent and experienced boaters. Repeated posts will not endear you to this group.

                    My experience with Eagle Marine has been excellent. And, although I didn't buy a boat from Eagle Marine, they’ve been helpful and informative.

                    As respects to this forum, I trust you'll come to appreciate the forum members. As a new boat owner, I’ve benefited from Tigeowners forum and the members wise counsel.

                    Finally, as respects to Tige boats, I like an earlier comment - Chit Happens
                    Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill

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                      #11
                      Thanks for sharing this with us. Another reason I will not buy a second tige. Hope you get your investment fixed and can enjoy some time on the water!

                      This is why some other companys should follow malibu's process. The dealers have to give them a 2hr test drive before the customer can take delievery of the boat!
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                        #12
                        Wicked,

                        I am embarrassed to say that I am going to laugh all day at your signature line.

                        Now how am I going to explain that in church?

                        Someone should have warned the original poster that things like this happen. It happens with every brand of boat. Most of us would prefer to call it 'working out the kinks'. The boat comes to the dealer needing a fair amount of work and he is then supposed to get it all ready (that big 'dealer prep' fee you paid!) and I think they let you down a little. But in my experience, this is chump change. It will get fixed, and you will love your boat.
                        Be excellent to one another.

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                          #13
                          About the racks.... watch your tow rope when you turn.

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                            #14
                            There should be some sort of disclaimer that new owners need to read and sign that boats are made up up of several different components by dozens of different manufacturers. No matter how much you pay for a product there can and will be issues. It is a shame that your board racks were not secured properly, its always a let down when a new boat leaves you standed, but this is no way to handle your frustration.
                            Dealers and salesmen work to sell boats to make a living, it is not their job to teach you how to own/drive/maintain a watercraft. It sounds like you got a standard walkthrough and thats what you recieved, you were warned by your salesman that it was a busy day and had little time to do so. He should have offered to make it up to you another day if that was in fact what he offered to do for your particular sale.
                            I was in sales and ran into this issue with many new boaters. My paycheck was based on commission sales and if time allowed I could spend extra time with an inexperienced boater, if it was busy and I need to make another sale I would point them to an experienced captain who would spend as much time as they wanted for a fee, sometimes we even included that fee in with the price of the boat.
                            When you learned how to drive a car you most likely took a reasonably priced driving course, and that course consisted of several hours/days of practice/parking/rules. If you compare this to a new car purchase, your expection the car dealer or the DMV to teach you how to drive just because you "bought a custom ordered car"?
                            My first Tige was used, perfect boat. I never had one issue that was not caused by me. I considered myself very lucky. My current boat has had a handful of issues, some of which happened because the boat sat a year before I purchased it and some were just bad luck.
                            1. Tail lights on trailer not connected at factory.
                            2. Torsion axle failure on both axles
                            3. Tongue jack broke 2 seperate times
                            4. Starter failed, left me stranded on lake twice.
                            5. Throttle body failed, left me stranded
                            6. TAPS gauge malfunctioning
                            7. Alternator mount alignment causing belts to wear improperly
                            8. Bearing caps on trailer keep coming off, 2 so far
                            9. Loose bolt on transmission, caused massive oil leak in bilge
                            10, Bow cleat constantly comes loose, cant reach to tighten
                            11. Walktrough hatch not aligned properly

                            Sure I get frustrated, but I also know that these issues were caused by either human error, quality control, bad design and the simple fact that ITS A BOAT! I went through the proper channels to get everyone of these issues fixed or did it myself. I never once came on this forum or any other to complain. Welcome to owning a boat, $hit happens.

                            If the worst thing that happens to you is you board racks fallin off and a loose fuse consider your self lucky. I would recommend taking a boaters course, most of the time there is a local coast guard volunteer group or a boaters club that do these for free. Check with you local West Marine or boat supply store and they should be able to point you in the right direction.
                            I would also recommend removing the other multiple posts, one day you may need help with a ligit post and may not get the proper help that this forum is designed to do.
                            Best of luck with your new boat. I assure you it will bring you hours of joy and hours of agony at the same time, after all it is a boat.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by robert theisen View Post
                              I guess you think Moomba's are perfect.If they were they would be Number 1 in sales and satisfaction.No boat is perfect all need adjustments and fixes from time to time.Nothing gets accomplished by complaining on here you have to work with the people you just ran over with your rant bus and then backed over with the negative sarcastic bus.I would imagine they need a little time to heal before they are willing to try again.
                              Dachbr was in response to this unnecessary comment to Jeffe from someone who has never owned a boat.

                              Kight & Christine Join Date: May 2011
                              Location: Dallas
                              Boat: R20 2011
                              Posts: 25

                              My 2001 Moomba Mobius had better upholstry & was less than half the price.

                              HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa MOOOOBA you’re a loser

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