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[NICKYPOO]

Naa dude, I just thought it was funny that after I tried to counterpoint your point, dragginass slaps that picture up. It's still making me chuckle. I was just playing the devil's advocate.

On a completely unrelated note, your scaring me man. I don't even think my mother is that PC, and she is widely know in this area as the most PC person on the planet. You should be telling me to take a flying f*ck at a rolling donut and if you don't like that I'll take you out back and kick your hairy *ss. You haven't offended me in the slightest. More than likely it's the other way around. In the grand scheme of things, it's all just talk, offensive or not. I must say you have a very analytical approach to these things though. Very well thought out comments. I just shoot from the hip. I usually end up with my foot in my mouth but, what the hell.

[raythompson]

Originally posted by NICKYPOO
I usually end up with my foot in my mouth but, what the hell.

With or without your shoes?

Now wouldn't that just ruin your day to have something like what was in the pictures happen to you. There are a couple of things that really scare me. One is getting into an accident with that mass of a boat behind me. The other is loosing the entire rig on the ramp. Both examples have been shown on this board. You would think that after 21+ years using a boat I would be used to that, but I am not. It still scares me and makes me uneasy.

That is why I do not tie down the back of the boat on the road. If I am going to upset my vehicle I want the boat to be following a different path, which there is a high probability of the boat doing if it is not unequivacilly bounded to a trailer that is also unequivacilly attached to my tow vehicle. You know, if A=B and B=C then A=C.

As for telling you to talk a flying f**k, naw. It is hard to fault opinions regardless of the difference in polarity from my opinion. Opinions can never be wrong. Besides, I reserve those words for other drivers in my twice daily commute.

[Tequilasun]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by NICKYPOO
take a flying f*ck at a rolling donut [/QUOTE


Haaaa haaaa haaaa

That is great!

[talltigeguy]

This thread has taken a number of interesting turns.

I should comment of course that I have no personal knowledge of the circumstances of the boat on top of the truck picture I posted. I suppose it could be rigged, but I think that is highly unlikely for reasons stated above. I bet if he had his tow straps on the back the boat would have stayed on the trailer.

Ray thompson said:

"Between trailer bunk friction and the tensile strength (in excess of 5K pounds) of the strap your boat is not coming off the trailer in any driving where you vehicle is going to stay upright and in control."

then said:

"That is why I do not tie down the back of the boat on the road. If I am going to upset my vehicle I want the boat to be following a different path, which there is a high probability of the boat doing if it is not unequivacilly bounded to a trailer that is also unequivacilly attached to my tow vehicle. You know, if A=B and B=C then A=C. "

My point is that bunk friction is very weak. Do we need to see more "boat fell off the trailer on the ramp pictures?"

Ray's other point is one I'd like to hear more opinions on - I too would like that boat going somewhere else in a serious accident other than staying right behind me. The problem being most accidents are not that serious. Suppose you have to swerve into the dirt median for some reason? Or if I can brake to 25 MPH before impact? I'll likely sustain some damage, but if I don't have the rear straps on, I'll probably total the boat.

[drewsnyder]

straps

So they are a good idea. If there was going to be a boat go on top of the truck if would be mine. Okay so i am new to owning a tige. How come you run out of gas when the fuel guage says half a tank, and then you look like a dumbass while showing off your 50k boat? I was out tonight and my son had a great time with his wake board. I said i had plenty of gas to make another run. It sucks to have a five day old boat towed in.

[djdc]

I think the politically correct version is:

Aeronautical intercourse in a rotating pastry

[raythompson]

Originally posted by talltigeguy
My point is that bunk friction is very weak.

Every tried to power you boat the last foot on the trailer when the trailer is not down far enough?

Do this as an experiment. Leave your boat about 3 inches shy of the stop block, attach the strap and pull off the ramp to a level location. Now try to move that boat the final three inches using the winch or any other means that you can find such as friends pushing on the back of the boat. It will not be easy if it can be done at all.

I have had this dilema and it involved putting the boat back down the ramp and partially floating the boat to crank the boat the last three inches.

To move a boat on the trailer requires significant force. Merely stopping a vehicle is not going to be enough. It will take forces that are applied during a crash to move a boat off a trailer. And I want that boat going somewhere else besides my vehicle as the boat damage is the least of my worries.

There is more friction on the bunks than you really think there is.

[NICKYPOO]

Devil's advocate here. Say you do need to winch the boat up that last 3 inches. You hook up the stap and try to winch. That boat ain't going no where. Bunk friction? In my opinion, kind of but, when your boat is on the trailer the winch is actually pulling the nose down, if even only 1 degree. With the combination of that and the slight upslope of the bunks you are basically pulling the boat down into the bunks, as opposed to pulling it along the bunks. For this reason alone I don't think that this experiment is an accurate depiction of what your friction may or may not be. The winch strap "angle" may be different on your trailer but, mine and every boat I've ever had anything to do with pulls the boat down as well as forward.

So far as how deep to put a trailer in the water, I feel it is totally trailer specific. Most of the people responding to this drop the trailer in just untill the fenders are submerged. I drop mine in way past that. Of coarse I'm the only one responding that has a Sport Boat Trailers trailer. My Tige is also the old "Droop Snoot" hull. These factors combined mean that I have to back mine in much further in order to get the nose over the winch strap bumper. This results in my fenders being a good six inches under the water line. This is at my "home ramp" though. It's always different when you go to a different ramp due to the angle of whatever ramp you might be at. For me, I'm looking at how close I need to get the winch to the water line. How do I determine that? I guess. I go to a lot of different lake around here and they are all different. All I can say is practice, practice, practice. After a few years it'll be second nature.

[raythompson]

Originally posted by NICKYPOO
Devil's advocate here.

All good points.

My old boat had a trailer where the winch was directly inline with bow hook. The bunks were 2x6's the were on edge where the 2 inch side contacted the hull. My Tige trailer also has 2x6's but on the side where the 6 inch side contacts the hull. That is a lot more surface area on the hull with my Tige than with my old boat. It was impossible to move my old boat with the winch and four people pushing on the back of the boat.

As for backing a trailer down it really does depend highly on the ramp. Steep ramps require less trailer submersion than a shallow ramp. I have my wife back down until I feel the back of the boat start to float.

I may be changing that perspective after my last incident. That was based on experience with my prior boat which was a stern drive. There are differences with an inboard that have obviously tripped me up so I am still learning.

[NICKYPOO]

Did I just hear you agree with me! Oh happy day!

[raythompson]

Originally posted by NICKYPOO
Did I just hear you agree with me! Oh happy day!

Nah, I just said they were good points. Sorry to ruin your day.

[NICKYPOO]

Man, what a buzz kill.