New TIGE 24V owner...get the boat home and disaster

[MooseX]

duff wavemakers recommended 20 amp fuses...AND the first one that popped was really really really hot. A 30 amp might just MELT the fuse housing

I called Jason at WM this AM. He was not much help. Not his fault..he's not here to diagnosis it

.it's a mystery. I ran down every wire today...it all looks exactly how I was told to do it.

I gave it a try and again the port and bow pumps popped their fuses after 20 seconds of not pumping water. The starboard pump doesn't pop it's fuse but still wont pump water

I've pretty much given up on the whole deal. We're pullin the boat off the bouy Wednesday.

[duffymahoney]

Explain how you have it wired?

[MooseX]

standard WM switches and shielded 12 gauge wire. All connections shrinkwrapped


*Battery leads to the middle posts

..POS on left post #2..

Ground on right post #5 and jumped to post #7



*Pumps to bottom posts...

POS on left post #3 and jumped to post #4

Ground on right post #6 and jumped to post #1



*'jumps' are short pieces of 12 gauge connected by compression boxes. I think they're cheesy but Jason says that's how he does it..


*Battery connections with heavy duty loops

[duffymahoney]

Can you disconnect the wire at the pump? Then use jumper cables from a battery to the pump. This will isolate the problem and let you know if it's wiring or the pump.

[MooseX]

that's next

[NICKYPOO]

Sorry dude. This weather has to be killing you right now. I'm sure once you find it, it will be a quick fix. (fingers crossed)

[chpthril]

beauuutiful day on the lake...no wind..mid 70's..water temp a frisky 58

...OK it's finally time to test out this ballast set up...hope my wiring was right ( I double double checked it a zillion times) We checked all the plugs in the sacs...and then popped the 3 ball valves

First the starboard side...buzzing and no water pumping into the sac...hmmm

Next the Port..buzzing...no water either... then popped the fuse

Bow..same as the Port..nada then POP (20 amp)

Double checked the wiring and it was clearly done right..

..hmmm disaster again

Brand new Johnsons..set up with help of Jason at WM

The fact that the pumps ran and then the fuses popped tells me the wiring is correct and the fuses popped due to over load. If the wiring was crossed and there was a dead short, the fuses would have blown instantly.

I would go back to the plumbing side of the system and see why the pumps seemed to be running dry, thus over loaded and popped the fuse.

Just and idea.

[MooseX]

I agree for now. We're pullin the boat with the fork lift tommorow..check the ball valves and everything else

NickyP' the lake has been unreal..just glass for miles the last 3 days...i'ts def' killin me. No boat out either..you might see one of two cruise by. This is THE TIME TO SURF before the kooks show up

[NICKYPOO]

Might get up there this weekend or might even take my boat out. I have yet to even get it on the water yet if it makes you feel any better.

No? Ah, sorry.

[MooseX]

unofficialy for sale.

I'll probably run it all summer but if someone comes up to me with an offer between now and then I'll sell it on the spot. I'll keep the sacs but all the plumbing stays with the boat including the pumps.

I'm pulling the FAE tommorow. I'm losing waaay too much power at this altitude and then the restrictiveness of the FAE..I'm probably running 270 hp at the most. Well at least that' what it feels like.

I'm having a metal fabricator freind modify it for more flow. This freind builds headers amongst other hi perf stuff... and is an alu' wizard.

Were gonna try and get at least the same size downpipe as one of the original exaust outlets (if not bigger)

[duffymahoney]

What prop are you running? It's most likely a prop issue. I actually believe the FAE increases HP a tiny bit. Are you worried about going fast or surfing or?

[MooseX]

1235

haven't towed any ballast yet...however the boat doesn't seem like it's gonna be able to drag 2000 lbs around. It totally feels like a Mercruiser 260 I/0

You lose so much hp for every 1000 ft...and I'm at 6250. I 'don't believe the boat will pull hard enuf' with the exaust restricted. I'd love for someone with a 24v at altitude to prove me wrong

I'm starting to believe the guys at the Marina who' have worked on lots of wakeboard boats set up for surfing. The very first thing they said when we rolled out onto the ramp is your gonna want to ditch that FAE..sorry




Don't care about fast

[duffymahoney]

Gosh I honestly think they are wrong. If I can push 2600 pounds and 8 people at 2k feet I would think you could do 2k and people. I went 1579 and I haven't had a power issue yet. You are high though

[embo]

I'm pulling the FAE tommorow. I'm losing waaay too much power at this altitude and then the restrictiveness of the FAE..I'm probably running 270 hp at the most. Well at least that' what it feels like.

I'm having a metal fabricator freind modify it for more flow. This freind builds headers amongst other hi perf stuff... and is an alu' wizard.

Were gonna try and get at least the same size downpipe as one of the original exaust outlets (if not bigger)

Haven't followed the entire thread but when you say "restrictiveness of the FAE", I don't think that is really happening. It is aerodynamically actaully increasing the amount of exhaust and water that comes out the downpipe. Huge venturi affect taking place there and so what ever slow-down there could possibly be, the venturi affect would be counter acting and I believe even sucking the exhaust and water out the downpipe. It probably is the case of simply having something stuck down in the water is a "drag" issue, but increasing the diameter of the downpipe, I beleive, won't increase performace. It is not equivilent to auto engines and headers and things like that. There is nothing "sucking" out exhaust on cars/trucks so making the pipes as big as possible would increase or reduce the restrictiveness in that application but not in this FAE/water application. Just my with relation to my pilot background and how the flow all everything under the water would be acting.

I am not saying the FAE sticking down in the water isn't creating "drag" and therefore slowing your boat down in a small amount just that increasing the downpipe dia will not increas performance. In fact I would hazard a guess it would increase drag even more.

On the FAE website, Larry even addressed this venturi affect showing smoke sucked down the pipe.

[MooseX]

huge difference between 2000 ft. above sea level and 6250