24V Tires blowing out

[scootc]

Guys with Goodyears - what do you run your tire pressures at?

[poohpotta]

50 psi

[Tequilasun]

Originally posted by raythompson
some idiot with the IQ of worm snaught broke a bottle on the ramp

I think I ruptured my splean laughing at that description

I wish some of the idiots around here had that high of an IQ

[Morry Jones]

Tire problem

I had two tires blow also, one on the way to Shasta and one on the way back 100+ degrees. They were Carlisle tires 3 seasons old on my 21I-R. Tires showed little wear or weather checking. Both heat separated. Carlisle claims you need to replace there tires every 3 years no matter what. One good reason not to buy them again. It’s to bad the trailer manufacturers can’t put good tires on the trailers that haul such an expensive piece of equipment. If I decide to get another Tige I will NOT get a trailer with Carlisle’s on it. I even contacted them (Carlisle) twice and I have yet to get a response via phone or e-mail. I’ve been in the tire business for almost 25 years and know how to take care of tires and these were in perfect condition.

[raythompson]

Originally posted by scootc
Guys with Goodyears - what do you run your tire pressures at?

50 PSI, the pressure stated on the tires.

[Morry Jones]

Tire pressures on trailers

Technically speaking the air carries the load so you should try and match the pressure with the load. Just because it says 50psi on the tires as max pressure it doesn’t always mean you have to run the stated pressure. How ever on my boat and trailer I weighed it and it grossed out at 5100lbs. 48 to 50psi was correct as far as this setup. On a Honda civic the tires maximum pressure shows 32psi. If you put 32psi in the rear tires you will get uneven wear. Truck tires same most require 100psi when loaded. No load the tires with 100psi will bounce like a ball down the free way. Under inflation is worse then over inflation but over inflation is still bad.

[scootc]

Morry
I agree, which is why I asked the question. The Goodyears say max cold press 50psi. To me this doesn't necessarily mean it's what you inflate them to for normal use. I just had new tires put on my truck which have the same max press 50psi label. The shop that installed them inflated them to 42psi - and told me this was a normal operating pressure.

[jsz]

Morry,

What year were your Carlisles new??? How long ago did they tell you to replace every 3 years??? I don't know if you saw my last post on this page but I heard carlisle was recently bought by a better tire co. and now makes a better tire. I also have carlisles so i'm currious.

You being in the tire biss might know. Did you hear anything about carlisle being bought and if so by who??? I thought I heard goodyear?

[SummerObsession]

jsz:

Morry knows his tires!!
I am in the tire biz as well, and I'm sure we can BOTH tell you how much it has changed the last 10 years.

We are primarily a Goodyear dealer, but we carry other brands as well.

I had also heard that Goodyear bought Carlisle. These days it is very common for a large tire manu. to buy out a small manu. in order to reach a different market segment.

Several different tire brands are, in fact, owned by bigger companies, but they keep the brand name seperate from their own.

Two things have contributed to this whole scenario. The first was the huge amount of money that Firestone lost in their lawsuit troubles in the whole Ford Explorer debacle.
The second is the "Wal-Mart-ization" of the world.
Companies like Goodyear will buy a lesser known brand and continue the production of those tires in order to increase their volume while selling a lower cost tire in order to compete with Wal-Mart and others on pricing. This, to me, does not in ANY WAY mean that in the case of Crlisle for example, that just because Goodyear bought them, they are now building a better tire. In fact, the case could be made that the opposite is true, as their goal is price first.

I haven't recently confirmed any of this with our Goodyear rep, but I am fairly certain that the Goodyear tires you buy at Wal-Mart may not, in fact, be the exact same tire you could buy from a Goodyear tire dealer. We have gone through this scenario many times with some of our customers, and found this to be true in the examples we saw.

The bottom line is that regardless of brand, a cheap tire is STILL a cheap tire. You get what you pay for, and none of like to be on the side of the road with a shredded tire.

When you select tires, make sure they are trailering specific, and have the highest load range rating you can find. Tandem and triple axles trailers are hard on sidewalls when turning, so it becomes even more critical to get a heavy sidewall tire for those trailers.

Hope this helps, sorry for the long reply

[Morry Jones]

Carlisle

My tires were on the trailer new in 2002. There web site says to replace the tires every three years regardless of wear. They must say this because they are not of the highest quality. I don’t know who (if anyone) bought them but there warranty has something to be desired.

[Morry Jones]

Tlr Tires

jsz is right! I think the trailer manufacturer needs to let it's dealers know that there is an upgrade available. Carlisle and others would be forced to build a better tire like the goodyear. jsz is also right you must use a trailer specfic tire but also because many of us leave our trailers sitting for months waiting for good weather. This also wears on tires. hope Tige is listening! this is an easy fix and it points to customer service. Would you put a Carlisle on a Mercedes?? No!

[Matt Garcia]

I remember a few years ago there was a huge thread on WakeWorld about Carlisle tires. If I remember correctly the person who had them on there trailer was trying to sue them because it caused damage to there trailer or something of that nature. Basically the people who replied to that thread came to the same consensus that Carlisle tires were junk.

[Tequilasun]

I read that thread as well:

I have never had a Carlisle tire, but after all the negative "press" about them, I'm sure I won't ever buy them.

My Pretige trailer came with Goodyear tires.

You tire guys, I am sure I need to rotate my trailer tires, got any Idea how often. I don't tow very far, maybe 200 miles in a year, so should I rotate once a year?

[Morry Jones]

Tire Rotation

I've never done it or had it done on a boat trailer. 90% of the weight should be resting on the four tires fairly even so the only way there would be uneven wear is if there is an under or over inflation situation.

[Original Wing Nut]

Good old fassioned service station in Beaver

For those travelling so on 1-15 to go to Powell Wahweep. In Beaver on the west side of the freeway there is a good service station. They wash windows check fluids and tire pressure as you are on your way. No extra cost just good old service. They really look over tires and such, they caught a bulge in a tire on my brothers trailer a few years back. The tires were all questionable after 6 years or so. They replace all the tires on the trailer for a pretty reasonale rate and had us on the road in no time. I'm sure they get alot of business from offering to do some simple things like scrub on some bugs and check some levels. I know they saved us from a trailer blowout and possible ugly time. I've heard that is the way SERICE stations used to be. I like old school, much better than the new convenience stores.