Tige 22VE Slalom Wake?

[RKM]

I'm in South Florida and there is a Tige 22VE for sale here.

I'm a bit of a "Crossover" user, about 40% slalom course, about 60% wakeboarding.

Can anyone give me an idea of how the 22VE performs above in the 32-35mph range with TAPS set to flat wake? Can it get anywhere near a direct-drive?

I had read on one forum that the boat is simply too heavy and does not perform well for slalom at all.

One last question. Does the 22' represent the full length with swim platform, or is the 22' the hull alone?

Thank you in advance!
RKM

[dingleberry]

Regarding the length, 22' would be hull length, not including platform.

Regarding the ski wake, I'll defer to others.

[RKM]

Thank you for the reply. If it's a full 22'0" on the hull alone, I probably have my answer on the slalom wake (not likely a 22' boat can get by without a decent size wake).

I am surprised about it being a full 22; it looks shorter than a Mobius where I saw it alongside, and the Mobius was 21'6".

Thanks again!

[laserfish]

On my 21 the wake is surprisingly small, but not a competition size by any means. I think it is very good for a crossover boat.

[RKM]

That's great to know, thank you.

By your reply, can I assume the 21V and 22VE have similar sized wakes? Or were you commenting more in-general?

[laserfish]

More in general for the V's. There are other threads that you can search that say the same for the 22's.

[brett22i]

The 22ve is 22 feet overall length, from tip of the bow to the edge of the transom. it does not include the swim platform. The 22 feet is not the water line length or what you are refering to hull length?
The 22ve is not a slalom specific boat, its a wake boat by nature but it will give a surprisingly decent slalom wake. It certainly cant produce a competition slalom wake like a 2,ooo lb 19 foot direct drive boat would, and vice versa as a direct drive cant produce as big of a wake as a heavy v-drive.
Any one selling a boat will take you for a spin, dont rule any boat out before a test ride/drive. Your idea of a good wake is different from everyone elses.

[RKM]

If the boat is a full 22'0", is there any chance of folding the swim-platform, or does it remove fairly easily? On the boat we have now, there is a cotter-pin, but it does not remove quickly to store on our lift (and if we bought a 22'0" boat, we'd have no choice but to remove it).

Thank you!

[Timmy!]

Swim platform comes off with the removal of 2 pins.

[NICKYPOO]

'06 22Ve, approximately 34mph, 6-175#+ dudes w/ a really full cooler in the boat, 75' line, circa late 70's Jobe.

[skippabcool]

'06 22Ve, approximately 34mph, 6-175#+ dudes w/ a really full cooler in the boat, 75' line, circa late 70's Jobe.

Do you move people to the bow at all to improve the wake? Or is that not necessary?

[chpthril]

On my 21 the wake is surprisingly small, but not a competition size by any means. I think it is very good for a crossover boat.

That's great to know, thank you.

By your reply, can I assume the 21V and 22VE have similar sized wakes? Or were you commenting more in-general?

The older 21V and the new 22Ve are worlds apart in hull design. The 21V had spray pockets, which was for the sole purpose of softening the lip of the ski wake. The Ve is a wake-board specific hull and has a substantial amount of rocker. I have heard that the 24Ve actually has a better slalom wake then 22ve.

If the boat is a full 22'0", is there any chance of folding the swim-platform, or does it remove fairly easily? On the boat we have now, there is a cotter-pin, but it does not remove quickly to store on our lift (and if we bought a 22'0" boat, we'd have no choice but to remove it).

Thank you!

The platform is easy to pull of and is a one person job. The teak is actually lighter then the fiberglass.

If you are a course skier, the Ve may not be the boat for you. If you are a rec skier, then I would highly recommend getting behind the Ve and see for your self. IMO, once you discover surfing, the ski will never see daylight again.

The 22ve is one heck of an awesome boat, but try and git out in it and behind it just to make sure it will be the right choice.

[RKM]

@Nicky- Thank you for those photos! The wake looks fairly smooth/soft and this really causes me to think the 22Ve may be okay.

To answer the questions above, I ski the course, but only for recreational purposes, not actual tournament. Generally I just take runs at 15' off now that I'm not quite a strong/flexible as I was years before..

Regarding the removal of the swim platform, can it be done from above the platform? Let me give you a better idea: when I pull the boat in to our cove, it butts against a seawall, and cannot protrude much more than 22' from that seawall. I would have to reach down from the sun-pad (engine cover) and try to remove the platform, to be able to back the boat as close to the seawall as possible. However, if it's like our current DD boat, this cannot be done from above the platform (which is okay in that case, since it's a 19' ski boat!)

Thanks again for the truly great input!

[chpthril]

@Nicky- Thank you for those photos! The wake looks fairly smooth/soft and this really causes me to think the 22Ve may be okay.

To answer the questions above, I ski the course, but only for recreational purposes, not actual tournament. Generally I just take runs at 15' off now that I'm not quite a strong/flexible as I was years before..

Regarding the removal of the swim platform, can it be done from above the platform? Let me give you a better idea: when I pull the boat in to our cove, it butts against a seawall, and cannot protrude much more than 22' from that seawall. I would have to reach down from the sun-pad (engine cover) and try to remove the platform, to be able to back the boat as close to the seawall as possible. However, if it's like our current DD boat, this cannot be done from above the platform (which is okay in that case, since it's a 19' ski boat!)

Thanks again for the truly great input!

Id say no way you could remove/reinstall the platform from on the boat.

Unless you need the room of a 22ft boat, you may look at a 20V. 20ft with a 96" beam. It may be within the length required without removing the platform. The 20V will have a better slalom wake then the 22Ve and still have a decent wake-board wake and a good surf wake.

[RKM]

Thank you for the suggestion. Problem is that I'm looking at a used boat, which limits me to the 22Ve that is available.

It's sort of 22Ve -- or keep searching for another used option.

Can I ask .. Where does the 22Ve fit in comparison to the other Tige boats, when it comes to wakesurfing?

One more thing I thought was unusual. It does not sound as if Tige redesigns their hulls as often as other manufacturers. Now being on a Tige forum, I'll probably get some subjective replies along the lines of "they don't need to, their hulls are perfect as-is" .. but .. with as much objectivity as possible, is the general consensus that some of the new hull advances / wakes on the newer ski boats, are in some ways superior to the Tige's? Or has Tige maintained neck-and-neck with other wakeboard boats, despite what appears to be a fairly long period without modification to the hull?