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**lawnjockey** · 07-21-2005, 01:41 AM

o.k. Today I replaced the distributor cap and rotor-still no help.
I checked the main harness and tried the jiggle test. The boat acts like its starving for fuel or the fuel cut-off is being triggerd. I have been having trouble with the sea water pump locking up lately, but the temp gauge reads no more than 175-80. the fuel pump is some type of cool fuel model--there seems to be no water going to it inside the hoses and I can here what sounds like a vacuum leak up close to the fuel pump.

Any help would be great - im about to pull the drain plug and let it sink

**David Hudick** · 07-21-2005, 02:26 AM

sell that piece of **** tige and a buy a Air Nautique.

**walkers2rad** · 07-21-2005, 04:58 AM

I would suggest, if you have not done this yet or ever...
Pull out the fiberglass piece that holds up your middle back seat and then the floor over the tank and there should be a fuel screen on the hose going from the tank to the fuel pump. This is to keep the junk from plugging your fuel pump, it looks like a metal automotive fuel filter but it has a screen in it, not a filter element. It is too small in my opinion and mine was plugged solid at 175hrs. Luckily I found this while pumping out my tank to put it up one winter! I did not have any luck finding an exact replacement but I did not look very hard. You have several options on what to do if you cant find one, but whatever you do move it to where it is more easily serviced! Just keep in mind that if you use a filter and not a screen it will plug much faster. Also be aware that there is a check valve screwed into the outlet of the tank that could cause problems but that would be rare, you can spin it out and blow air in it to make sure it flows one way.
Here is what I did...
I bought 5' of new marine grade fuel hose and added another water separator/filter kit before the pump. That should have more than enough capacity for the trash from the tank and should flow plenty enough to feed the pump. I mounted it above the left motor mount to the plastic engine divider that does not come off.
Every year I put a new filter on the origional seperator and rotate that one to the prefilter position. One could probably argue that the factory one is not needed anymore and you could bypass it and replumb it but that looked a bit more involved than I had time for at that moment.
I have always heard that a pump is better at pushing than pulling and to never put a filter before it. This was true for back in the day when we had carbs and diaphram pumps. But the fact is that this pump has a very fine mesh screen in the inlet and it would not take much junk at all to choke it off.
Good lucka and I hope this helps put you in the right direction.
Ray

**lawnjockey** · 07-22-2005, 01:51 AM

thanks, I will check it in the morning

**Tige M.D.** · 07-23-2005, 01:40 PM

so, here is aguy looking for a little help and he get "sell that piece of **** tige"!
i got an idea Dave, go somewhere else and cause problems, this is a site to help other boaters not bash them. if that is all the input you have to offer then log off for good.

**JASON739** · 07-25-2005, 11:25 PM

m.d.
your help here is appreciated. However, not everyone here profits from the poor quality boat for which you so generously offer advice. I see dealer and factory responses on this site that blatantly take advantage of the first time competition boat owner.
i.e. fuel guage, fuel pump, steering cables, impellers, and i could continue.
How many fuel flow meters have you sold and installed on tiges that are less than 2 years old? Let me let you folks in on a well known fact, fuel guages on $40,000 boats are supposed to work and do with the proper sender/tank/guage combination. Steering cables on comp boats do not fail after only two years even if you never greased it.
Always remember to get opinions outside a peer group. This site does serve a good purpose and there is always good information, but there is also some conflict of interest in some cases.

**David Hudick** · 07-26-2005, 04:09 AM

MD I own a 21V TIGE Riders Edition and had problems with this site and the damn dealer so that's what the site is for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The boat is being sold as we speak and just purchased a New 2005 SV-211 Team Edtition Air Nautique because the quality of Tige has gone down the drain. $60,000 for a 22V come on!!!! Everyone on this site is bitchin out something. Plus take a G-damn joke for once A-SHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Matt Garcia** · 07-26-2005, 01:59 PM

David,

What type of problems were you having with this site? You never expressed any concern or issues with me.

FYI, flat text doesn't convey any emotion so don't assume that we knew you were joking, your intentions were blatant.

**dogbert** · 07-26-2005, 02:09 PM

I think everyone needs to take a chill pill

**Jeff** · 07-26-2005, 03:31 PM

Jason,

don't be upset at everyone else because you could only afford a 20i. The fuel gauges in a Cobalt even at times have the same issues that the Tige's have, and for the fuel pump do you think Tige has mercruiser put on a less expensive to save money, come on get real. I am sorry that you had a bad experience but there are allot more that have had a good one.

Jeff

**walkers2rad** · 07-26-2005, 05:41 PM

Here is a lesson in life my grandpa always told me "If it has tits or tires, could be sooner, could be later but you WILL have problems"
Where will we be able to see, not if but when David starts b*tchn about his new Nautique? I bet it will be even louder after he spends considerably more $$.
There are alot of things you can buy now that you will not have any issues or bugs to work out and pretty much most new boats are not going to be on that list regardless of the builder. It does not mean that it could not be that way or should not be that way but that is the way it is!
Another thing I have learned in life is that "people with more money than mechanical sense have a higher and somewhat unrealistic expectation of things working" There is no shortage of these kind of people anywhere, not just here!
Jason your comments were what is called a backhanded compliment and really were uncalled for. Reminds me why I cut back in helping people with no mechanical sensitivity. I actually had a guy tell me "hey thanks for charging my battery (for free btw)(because I left my lights on like an idiot) but ever since you did that my tire keeps going flat!" I actually got the impression that fixing the tire would not have complety satisfied him, I think he actually wanted a new tire! That was the last time I did anything for him!

Those asking for or reading free advise need to remember that people are taking thier own time to try to help out for nothing but maybe a thanks. Regardless of what business they are in or if they have much input on quality on the builder.

Some intellegent and thoughtfull complaints would have more influence on making improvements in the products we use, it does serve a purpose. Think about that before you attack anybody or a business.

Just my two cents!
Ray

**dogbert** · 07-26-2005, 06:21 PM

I agree with Ray. Boats are not like cars. You use them infrequently and it's very difficult for manufacturers to get the kind of quality feedback you get in cars. The dealer makes a much bigger difference with boats.

I actually did try to buy an Air Nautique back when I bought my Tige. Here's what I didn't like:

1. No one from Sail & Ski (in Austin) ever came by to talk to me even though they knew who I was. By contrast, at the same boat show, the Tige representative spent 2.5 hours talking to my wife and I about the boat. Kind of a showstopper if you ask me. On follow-up visits with the Ski Dock, they were very helpful. Their service continues to be second to none.

2. I'm 6'7". I got behind the wheel and could not make the seat go back far enough to prevent my knees from hitting the dash. Another major showstopper for me. When I finally found someone to ask about this I was pretty much told take it or leave it. So I left it...

3. Tige was wider and it still makes all the difference in the world in terms of ride and room. The more I looked at the 2100v, the more I liked.

I did have a couple of initial problems such as the boat not being clean when I picked it up and the packing material around the shaft not installed correctly from the factory, but the Ski Dock made sure I was taken care of promptly. My boat has been so reliable that 4 friends have bought the same model (but different years) and I'd have no hesitation recommending this boat.

As for Jason's issues, I've never had a boat where the fuel guage was 100% accurate. I've always had to replace my raw water impeller ever couple of years because they get brittle after sitting dry and will fail when you suck debris into it. You will have problems with your steering cable if it your bilge has water in it all the time. It's a constant battle keeping my fishing boat's steering cable well lubricated so it won't rust. Stainless steel will rust if submerged

Having said all that, it would be nice if a fuel flow meter was standard issue on these boats.

I still think I made the right decision and I'd recommend the combination of Tige and the Ski Dock here in Austin to anyone without hesitation.

**SummerObsession** · 07-27-2005, 04:35 PM

This fuel gauge issue everyone seems to have is interesting. The fact is that MOST fuel gauges n boats are very inaccurate. I had a 2001 35' Cigarette (can't get much better quality than that!) that had Livorsi gauges in it, and it would run out of fuel showing 1/8-1/4 tank of fuel in both tanks. I fixed this problem by fueling it when it read 1/2

My question is this. If everyone is adding ballast to these boats, why not put 2 large (50+ gallon) fuel tanks on either side of the boat and at least us them for both ballast and to extend the useful range/hours of the boat?
A 24V with 47 total gallon (probably 40 useable) tank makes no sense to me when you pump the boat full of water to add weight.

Just my .02

**BrentRR** · 07-27-2005, 05:08 PM

I've had some issues with my '05 24V and have shared them on this site.

Matt, why don't you delete the post by David Hudick? I don't want to censor anyone that may have negative comments, but does it do anybody any good to have posts like that? Calling people names, how childish is that?

Make your point intelligently, if you can. It always amazes me how tough and arrogant people can get when behind a computer screen.

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