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    #31
    I'm curious why no Diesel? The reason I ask is when I priced the Tundra Crewmax Limited, Invoice priced out EXACTLY the same as the LTZ duramax w/ comparable features. After all rebates applied.

    To me, it was a no brainer.
    Being a major OU fan and a staunch conservative.... I am perpetually vexed w/ the conundrum of who to hate more. Obama or the Univ. of Saxet.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Ewok View Post
      I talked to a Toyota dealer a few weeks ago and he said a diesel Tundra is planned at some point. And all the Tundras and Tacoma's are made in San Antonio I think. I'm not sure how far away the diesel is but I'll check them out when they do. I hope it's an in-line 6, but it'll probably be a V-8.
      I actually saw two Toyota prototypes testing in AZ last weekend. One of them was absolutely a diesel.

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        #33
        If you get a chance get on you tube and look at some of the truck testing for those models .

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          #34
          Originally posted by Tanner View Post
          I'm curious why no Diesel? The reason I ask is when I priced the Tundra Crewmax Limited, Invoice priced out EXACTLY the same as the LTZ duramax w/ comparable features. After all rebates applied.

          To me, it was a no brainer.
          Tanner, I think one of us was getting hosed. When I was looking at the diesel Chevys in December, the price was a good 7-8K more after rebates. Or I could take 0% with no rebates and pay about 11-12K more. Toy was offering 0% AND a small rebate, and I took it.

          If I took the rebate from Chevy and then financed at 6%, then I really was going to get hosed. But at that time demand was even higher because the diesel plant was being shut down, and supply was going to be very limited.

          The Chevy diesel was just out of my price range...so then I considered the gasser, and they were about even, or the chevy was even a little less... then the wife decided she could not forgive Chevy for the 1999 suburban we used to own. It was a total piece of crap.
          Be excellent to one another.

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            #35
            I can't believe the sticker price on a CC duramax now. My same truck that stickered for $46,800 in 2007 is now $51k which I think is absolutely ridiculous. I only paid $38k for mine back then though which is still kind of pricey.

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              #36
              Tall,

              That's now vs. then probably. When I was looking in 07' the crewmax had just came out, so there were no rebates. They were the brand new hot item!

              I got the nbs duramax, and when I did GM released a $4500 the week I was going to purchase, which was funny as the rebate the month before was only $800. I timed it just right. I also had $3K saved up on my GM card. Add another $500 from the Home builders assoc. and I had $8K in rebates total, so I made out like a bandit on the duramax .

              My LTZ CC max stickered at $49K and at the time, the similarly equipped Crewmax limited stickered at $45. The difference is invoice on the Toy was only about $1500 less than sticker while the Duramax, like most the American vehicles, had about a $5000 difference between invoice and sticker. So VERY comparable AT THE TIME! Throw in the rebates and it was a no brainer for me!
              Being a major OU fan and a staunch conservative.... I am perpetually vexed w/ the conundrum of who to hate more. Obama or the Univ. of Saxet.

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                #37
                Originally posted by talltigeguy View Post
                I have a Tundra Crewmax and love towing my X45 with it. The boat weighs 4900 pounds dry and has a 90 gallon gas tank. By the time I add gear and trailer, I am sure to be at or over 7K.

                Under 55 MPH, I really can't tell the difference between that and my diesel Excursion. Acceleration is terrific. The diesel excels at highway speeds and can go from 65 to 85 in a heartbeat. The tundra is no slouch at highway speeds, just not like the diesel. I have a long hill right near my lake and if I cruise to Mead, the canyon coming back has multiple long steep sections and I can maintain speed all I want on those hills.

                The suspension manages the boat very well and I always feel like the truck is in control. The gas mileage sucks to about 9-10 MPG with the Tundra.

                I have pulled with a duramax as well and I think that for the 2004-2006 vintage, the duramax pulled better than the Ford 6.0.

                When it boiled down to it, the wife made me buy a Toy since I had my first one since 1996 with very little hassle, and in that time we went through a lemon suburban (she still couldn't forgive Chevy for that) and my Excursion, which has been reasonable, but far from trouble free.
                Have a 2010 Tundra 4X4 with the small V8 and have NO problems towing our RZ4. The difference between the Toyota and GM product will be exactly that....Trans failure, rear end failure and electrical failures on a GM product starting at the 5 year mark.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by turbonine View Post
                  I actually saw two Toyota prototypes testing in AZ last weekend. One of them was absolutely a diesel.
                  Sweet, I hope they actually build them. I have high hopes for that truck, especially if it is an in-line 6!
                  2009 RZ2, PCM 343, MLA Surf Ballast, Premium Sound.
                  2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD W/Timbren SES

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                    #39
                    What about braking? Isn't the Tundra supposed to have better braking distances?
                    Mike Allen, Tigé owner since 1997

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nobody View Post
                      Have a 2010 Tundra 4X4 with the small V8 and have NO problems towing our RZ4. The difference between the Toyota and GM product will be exactly that....Trans failure, rear end failure and electrical failures on a GM product starting at the 5 year mark.
                      Ive never owned an american vehicle that hasnt gone the disstance , and im talking 400,000, miles with minamal repairs, but I wont buy the current GM vehicles until the goverment gets out of their bussiness.

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                        #41
                        Whatever the Honda Ridge line beats every ones truck. True Heavy Duty Performance Always Starts with a Honda.
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by 91Terminator View Post
                          Whatever the Honda Ridge line beats every ones truck. True Heavy Duty Performance Always Starts with a Honda.
                          This thread has really hit a sensitive spot on the Terminator.
                          Be excellent to one another.

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                            #43
                            I love my F-150!

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                              #44
                              I vote:

                              2500 HD ----- By American!

                              It doesn't really matter that the yota's are built/assembled here. The end revenues go back to the mother land. And the state our economy is in right now, we need all of the in our borders support and patronage we can get.
                              I don't want to go to work, take me wake surfing instead!

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                                #45
                                We have a local oil company that decided to replace their chevy 2500's with Tundras for the well servicing trucks because one of the owners had an old 4 runner with 400,000km's on it and said that Toyotas were the best and required the lease amount of maintenance. There was about 6 or 7 units replaced and only 2 chevys remained. They ran these trucks for about a year putting roughly 100,000km's on them. These trucks were used for work! Approx 1000lbs of weight in the box of tools and driven off the beaten path. The short of the story is that these trucks did not hold up as well as the chevy's. The boxes were falling apart, warning lights always on the dash, constant electical problems and hard on fuel. Thats no to say they will not be good in you application, but to say the Toyotas are a better quality truck is simply not true. They currently have only 1 Toyota left, which has been the one good one and a few new Dodges and the rest GMC's

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