Z1 compared to R20?

[IDBoating]

I'm looking at "value" boats. It strikes me that the R20 and Z1 both occupy a similar position in the Tige lineup. Aside from the one foot length difference, both are:

* V-drives
* Picklefork hulls
* Missing "fancy" features like LCD's in favor of low cost
* Convex-V with TAPS (at least available if not standard)

...and so forth.

What's to recommend one over the other?

Thanks!

[evil0ne]

I'm looking at "value" boats. It strikes me that the R20 and Z1 both occupy a similar position in the Tige lineup.

The Z1 is not a picklefork.

[Fiveflat]

According the Tige themselves, I was told that the R20 is less luxury than the Z1.
And the Z1 is not picklefork

[yllw20]

The RZR is going to be the loaded up 20.
I beilive it will have touchscreen.
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Some people dont like the look and prefer a traditional v bow.

[IDBoating]

the Z1 is not picklefork

Oops, I thought it was. OK, so the differences are one foot of length and the shape of the bow. Otherwise, both are "value" V-drives.

[91Terminator]

Oops, I thought it was. OK, so the differences are one foot of length and the shape of the bow. Otherwise, both are "value" V-drives.

Yes they are both more entry level. The Z1 is a bit bigger, but can be luxurious if ordered that way, and is nice like a 22Ve but a bit less money. Therefore you can get all that the Ve's have just a little bit smaller and a bit more cost effective.

The R20 is your down right entry level boat. Does not have many options, and gets to very base level pricing.

The Z1 starts out there and can be very very nicely equipped.

i hope this helps.

[Iwndr]

Oops, I thought it was. OK, so the differences are one foot of length and the shape of the bow. Otherwise, both are "value" V-drives.

Depends what you consider a Value, A loaded Z1 is not cheap by my standards but it is a Dam nice boat And worth every penny to me

[Iwndr]

Yeah What 91T said

[IDBoating]

Depends what you consider a Value, A loaded Z1 is not cheap by my standards but it is a Dam nice boat And worth every penny to me

I get the impression you can option and outfit either model. Obviously you can spend as much as you want for whatever options you fancy. But aren't the baseline Z1, and the baseline R20, pretty close except for one foot of length and bow design?

[91Terminator]

I get the impression you can option and outfit either model. Obviously you can spend as much as you want for whatever options you fancy. But aren't the baseline Z1, and the baseline R20, pretty close except for one foot of length and bow design?

The R20 does not have many options to choose from. You cannot option it out as well as all other boats.

Because that is not what the boat is about. If you want a decked out R20 get an RZR or move to the Z1 is the goal with the line up for 2011.

[IDBoating]

The R20 does not have many options to choose from. You cannot option it out as well as all other boats.

Yes, but if you keep them close to baseline I'm thinking they're not that far apart. The ability to option them out doesn't compel you to do so.

[91Terminator]

Yes, but if you keep them close to baseline I'm thinking they're not that far apart. The ability to option them out doesn't compel you to do so.

No your right you dont have to but it gives you more options.

Also the R20 will come in much less then a Z1 when both are base.

[IDBoating]

Also the R20 will come in much less then a Z1 when both are base.

OK, but the question is WHY? What about the Z1 would make its base model inherently more expensive than the R20 (other than the extra fiberglass in that foot of length and wider bow)?

Let's say $2500 for the difference in base engines. Otherwise, where's the money?

[91Terminator]

OK, but the question is WHY? What about the Z1 would make its base model inherently more expensive than the R20 (other than the extra fiberglass in that foot of length and wider bow)?

Let's say $2500 for the difference in base engines. Otherwise, where's the money?

Ok here we go.

The R20 comes with a standard 5.0L.
No Carpet.
Fixed Taps Plat.
Standard Clarion CD Player 4 Speakers.
20 foot 96" wide.
No Built in cooler.
no hinges on seating.
single axle.
tower vector tower

The Z1 comes with a standard 5.7L 343HP.
Carpeting.
Taps Adjustable.
21 foot 100" wide.
CMD-6 Head unit. 4 sperakers
Bulit in cooler.
piano hinge seating.
tandem axle
Alpha Z Tower

I think there is more.

[IDBoating]

The R20 comes with a standard 5.0L.
Fixed Taps Plat.

The Z1 comes with a standard 5.7L 343HP.
Carpeting.

The engine upgrade is about $2500, I believe.

The rest of the stuff - yes, that will add up. So I guess what's really happening is that the base R20 is "more" basic than the base Z1. I suspect you could probably order a stripped Z1 from the factory to reach the R20's level, and maybe that would bring them closer, but no Z1 would ship standard like that without a deposit.

Thanks for the clarification!