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    #16
    AWESOME!

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      #17
      Originally posted by ragboy View Post
      You see that line of foam in the wake? It didn't harm the wake, just foam, but that was from the water line on boat was a "bit" past the rubrail. It was crossing right through the middle of the RZ2 vent, and that foam was from it hitting the small lip on the vent. LOL. We had fun.
      I have tripped the blower breaker and ruined one blower from water running into that vent under surf ballast. And that was with a riser loop in the hose.

      I have often thought it would be handy to have a shaped piece that shielded the lower portion of the vent.

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        #18
        or block off one side completely. Leave other open.
        http://wake9.com/

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          #19
          So, one more thing before Chase. Here is a raw clip of unedited video showing wake from side of boat. You can see attitude of boat, how Bre was taking pictures, people weight, full disclosure. Doesn't give justice to height of wake, but when chase goes to bottom of transition, you can see wake is about waist high.

          Chase goes back about 3/4 of the wake, another 3-5 feet where you could ride and recover fairly easily.



          Watch in HD.
          http://wake9.com/

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            #20
            WARNING!!!! TSUNAMI ALERT JUST ISSUED FOR NORCAL VALLEY...





            [sarcasms]Wow, I am glad that I am at work!!!![/sarcasms]

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              #21
              ok, so before setup, let me get to Chase's first sesion. He rode 3 different boards, almost instantly adjusted to them, and shredded.

              Getting used to the flyboy in his first session.





              Going for an ollie-oop 3



              I think he was trying a shuv here



              Catching on to the flyboy quick, jumping out of frame.







              Hello!







              Add the grab





              Reverse



              More air.



              Shuv



              http://wake9.com/

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                #22
                Forgot to add this, this is the set for Chase's first session:

                http://wake9.com/

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                  #23
                  That video is awesome! Would you say that the RZ2 > Enzo now?

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                    #24
                    Looks like your having a blast breaking her in.

                    I still feel horrible that I got to drive it before Ragboy and surf it before RJ.

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                      #25
                      OK, so that was the first 2 sessions, James and Chase, both amazing riders. Such a blast to watch them both. At first, we were like, wow thats high, then ooh, chase went higher, then ooh, james was higher, at the end of the day, it was all just amazing.

                      So then we moved on to skim rider sean cummings, who had a great session also. Before I get to Sean, I want to talk about the setup we used for surf, because we adjusted fro Sean.

                      Dennis bought 700 lbs of lead and a large 750 lb sac. We filled the in hull 250lb tank on the surf side, and then added 400lbs of lead on top of that, then about 500-600lbs filled of the large sac on top of that. At most 1200lbs of weight in rear corner on surf side. Then we filled the ballast on surf side in front and added 300lbs of lead up front on surf side, 700 lbs of ballast up front on surf side. In the boat, RJ was driving at 140lbs, dennis and I sat in ballast position as seen in video, 660lbs or so, and bre on back deck with the camera, about 150.

                      Surf side rear: ~1200lbs
                      Surf side front: 700lbs
                      People weight on surf side ballast positioned: 660lbs
                      Other people: 290lbs

                      Total: 2850 lbs, only 400lbs overweight I believe.

                      Taps was all the way down to 1 for this setup. The RZ2 is nicely weight sensitive and with that Convex V hull it just sinks down the rear with weight. My 24Ve doesn't sink down like this does, that 2 feet makes a big difference. So even with all that weight in front, taps to 1, or you had a short wall of a wake. With the weight, and taps at 1, we had a large wake, good transition, good lip to launch from, and a long pocket.

                      To understand what I mean by the hull, the bottom of the RZ2 and all Tige's with the "Convex V" hull have a continuous rocker at the bottom of the boat. This means it is a non planing hull. Other boats have a hook at the back of the hull, so it will plane. With a bit of weight in it, the tige will NOT plane without the use of the taps plate, it can provide that hook. What that means is that with taps UP the boat sinks down more than most boats and so less weight is necessary, and our testing seems to confirm that. Here is a picture of the bottom of my boat.





                      We mirrored the same thing on goofy, nothing different. The wake was equally good, but we have to finish goofy sessions tomorrow. Here is one pic of RJ.



                      When we are done with this, we will go back to NO lead, only water, and find the perfect setup that doesn't put us overweight, and still fully automated. We are establishing 3 setups, stock with pro ballast, larger rear sac and still automated, and balls to the wall.

                      Dennis got this setup right the first time, he only filled and placed lead ONE time.
                      http://wake9.com/

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Timmy! View Post
                        That video is awesome! Would you say that the RZ2 > Enzo now?
                        That would be my opinion, especially when we get this on both sides. And with less weight.
                        http://wake9.com/

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                          #27
                          Rag, This wake looks awesome!!

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                            #28
                            Fantastic. Thanks for taking the time to share all this. Can't imagine how much time it saves everyone else in trial and error.

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                              #29
                              Dang, I forgot to put down that Chase rides for Shredstixx and for Slayshtank. Sorry, brain fart.
                              http://wake9.com/

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by ragboy View Post
                                Then we ... added 300lbs of lead up front on surf side, 700 lbs of ballast up front on surf side.
                                ....
                                Surf side front: 700lbs
                                ....
                                Total: 2850 lbs, only 400lbs overweight I believe.
                                700 or 1000 pounds in the front? If 1000 then 700 lbs overweight.

                                Great info re setup. Amazing amount of front weight.

                                Did a higher TAPS soften up the wave too much? TAPS 1 means the plate is fully engaged right(i.e., maximum bow depression, maximum transom lift)? In other words, TAPS 8 has the plate fully up and out of the way resulting in the @$$ end of the boat sunk way down and the bow way up.

                                For us, when there is lower people ballast, I compensate with TAPS 4. With lots of people I can drop to TAPS 3. Truthfully do not recall much experimentation with TAPS 1 or 2. But with all the weight you were sporting, it makes sense you could go to TAPS 1 and still get enough wave height.

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