The forever question: 24Ve vs RZ2...

[chpthril]

Just curious, tall, why not a RZ4? Other than cost and availability, were there other reasons (handling, etc.)? I have not compared the interiors side by side -- is the passenger and storage space in the RZ2 close to the 24Ve? I find that the "general family time" of your equation often involves extended family and friends, and I love the space in my 24V -- both passenger and, maybe even more importantly, storage.




I have read on some other posts that people feel the Ve will handle better in rough water than the equivalent size RZ. Anyone agree/disagree?

I agree! I feel, and yes I have spent time in both, that the deep V of the Ve is more forgiving on the chop then the slight tri-hull of the RZ.

[da.bell]

1) The swim platform is going to be an issue on the 24Ve while the 2009 RZ2 I can not remember if the platform is the smaller version that is better for wakesurfing.

2) It is going to take less weight to "sink" the RZ2 than the 24Ve.

3) The performance between them both is night and day. The RZ2 is going to handle like a dream compared to the 24Ve. The turning and control over the RZ2 is so much better.

Good luck Tall. However, you have two people that went from a 24Ve on this site to a RZ2 (ragboy and I) while I think there was one person that came from a RZ4 to a RZ2 (I can't remember who it was off the top of my head)....

[Timmy!]

I agree! I feel, and yes I have spent time in both, that the deep V of the Ve is more forgiving on the chop then the slight tri-hull of the RZ.

I'd like to take the Pepsi challenge on that one. I've ridden in a 22Ve and my RZ2 at the same lake on the same day in rough water and I couldn't tell any difference between them but I suppose a 24Ve might handle it a little better. I was referring to the actual handling of the boat, i.e.- how it turns and maneuvers. The 24Ve is very good but the RZ2 is better in that regard.

[chpthril]

I'd like to take the Pepsi challenge on that one. I've ridden in a 22Ve and my RZ2 at the same lake on the same day in rough water and I couldn't tell any difference between them but I suppose a 24Ve might handle it a little better. I was referring to the actual handling of the boat, i.e.- how it turns and maneuvers. The 24Ve is very good but the RZ2 is better in that regard.

I would agree that the 22ft would be more agile then the 24ft and offer better maneuverability.

[Coop]

I was referring to the actual handling of the boat, i.e.- how it turns and maneuvers. The 24Ve is very good but the RZ2 is better in that regard.

I would agree that the 22ft would be more agile then the 24ft and offer better maneuverability.

Not to hijack tall's thread, but is it just a matter of size then, or does anyone think the RZ handles differently/better than the equivalent size Ve (ignoring the rough water issue)?

[91Terminator]

Not to hijack tall's thread, but is it just a matter of size then, or does anyone think the RZ handles differently/better than the equivalent size Ve (ignoring the rough water issue)?

This is what i believe.

If you were in an RZ2 and a 22Ve i see/feel no difference, same with the RZ4 and 24Ve. But they may be a slight difference form RZ2 to 24Ve, and From 22Ve to RZ4 but not much at that in handling and maneuverability.

TallTigeGuy
The bottom line is you need the 24Ve...it's calling you name. Its says come buy me

[talltigeguy]

I think I can get a better wake for wakeboarding out of the RZ2. Handling doesn't mean much to me...I just need to be able to turn around in a big enough power turn to pick up my downed rider.

I have the 8.1L in my current boat...so I know lots about fuel consumption. Actually I do not think it is too bad. Some people try and say because the bigger motor works less hard to do the same work it would use less gas. That is BS, to a certain point. I can stack 2500 pounds in my X45 and the 8.1L hardly groans doing it. The fuel consumption is suprisingly not double what my 5.7L MP did with less ballast. I went from about 7-8 to 11-12 gallons per hour.

[evil0ne]

As a two time 24' boat owner are you going to be happy with the RZ2? The X-45 is a huge boat, are you using all of it? I recently had 8 full size people and 4 Labrador size animals and it was just starting to get crowded. All that said, if I were buying a new Tige tomorrow it would be a RZ2.

[Ewok]

I was in your shoes about 2 months ago, although I never owned a 24 V before. I was looking around at used towboats and went looking at a dealer to crawl around them and see what new Tige boats are like, so I could compare against used boats. The dealer had a few 09's left and I fell in love with the 24ve. My last boat was this 22' Bayliner Classic 2250, a pretty big bowrider. I didn't want to downsize interior room so I was looking at 23-24' towboats. The dealer had a 24ve and RZ2 side by side and I got to see there was a very small difference in the main cabin but a very large difference in the bow area. The RZ2 was also lighter overall (I tow with a V8 4Runner) and tows much easier than my Bayliner.

See the pics below to view the crazy difference in size, but I didn't give up any interior room or storage space with the RZ2. OK, I did have a bathroom in the old boat and the RZ2 does not have a bathroom, but no one every used the bathroom, it was never used in 17 years to I guess I won't miss it.

BL: The RZ2 does not look as good as the 24ve (IMO, but its growing on me) but my 4Runner tows it better, it was a little cheaper for me, it actually fits in my garage, and I didn't give up any interior room from my last boat.

[evil0ne]

Nice boat"S". The Bayliner looks pretty good for almost 20 years.

[Ewok]

Nice boat"S". The Bayliner looks pretty good for almost 20 years.

Thanks, the Bayliner was the family boat to carry most of my grandfathers 6 kids, 13 grandkids and 5 great-grandkids (not all at the same time, but a pretty big crowd). We had a LOT of great memories on that boat and I did shed a tear as it drove away with the new owner.

The point of my post was that Tige built a great boat with the RZ2. It's so good it might start to cannibalize the market and sales of the 24ve and possibly the RZ4. The RZ4 has more room than the 24ve due to the bow but I looked very hard in my comparison of the 24ve and RZ2 and the 24 did have a little more room in the cabin, but it had a much smaller bow area. It was my observation from sitting in every seat in the 2 boats that there was very little difference in the 2. My observations in the dealership held up on the water when I ran into a 2007 24ve on the lake and my RZ2 "seemed" about the same size, if not larger.

[dogbert]

I'd go with the RZ2, IMHO. But that's just me. What convinced me was riding around in one with Nick Weinacker (Thanks Andrew!)

[murphini]

good problem to have & good luck cause you can't go wrong.

Love our 24ve and rode in a RZ2. Both rock. My 2cents

24ve looks classier/classic-ier, you know the dims in the cavin and it may have better rough water performance

Rz2 looks cooler/modern-ier but tad aggressive for my taste. Felt squarer in seating area than the rectangle of the 24ve. But picklefork is a huge bonus.

Both will throw great wakes, ve just a bit more fill time.

if same px, I'd be tempted go w/the rz
if ve is less due to the 'older' design, jump on it

too bad Ragboy doesn't have 100 Hrs on his new RZ2 because he'd the THE GUY to really tell you pro/cons.

[Paublo]

Tall, it wasn't one of your options but I would also look at a SAN 230. It has a very acclaimed wakeboard and surf wake. It also has the PCM motor. I wouldn't get the Malibu based on friend's experiences with the Indmar and fuel consumption. I loved my two Tiges and the dealer was a huge part of my experience. Now that they are gone, I went to a Nautique based on a large part- again the dealer. And it has again been a great experience. Nautique makes a very nice boat. I personally believe that the dealer is a close second to the manufacturer in the overall experience and satisfaction with your boat. Who is going to take care of you?

[ragboy]

Does this help your decision?



We are moving from the 24Ve, I probably need more time to get a good feedback on this issue. But its amazing how much better the 22 foot boat rides/performs than the 24Ve, and how much easier it makes a surf wake.