New ballast

[somebodyelse5]

http://vimeo.com/13347104?hd=1

[chpthril]

Wave looks perfect and the pocket looks a mile long

[somebodyelse5]

Yea its pretty solid, and still gettin better! we actually have a darkside wave too, barrel and all

[rostap]

Very cool!

[Guapo]

Very nice...that pocket does look super long.

I've seen guys ride with their back to the wake before, but not as what appears to be their preferred method. Seems like you have it nailed though. Any reason for it?

[majestic]

Great looking wave!

Riding backside... Very impressive

[Duncan]

Beautiful smooth and long pocket wave!

And nice backside riding

[Jason B]

Are those just standard sacks? Did you fill both sides to surf or just the port side? your wave is sooooooo much longer than mine. I think mine is a little taller, but I'd trade that for longer since my sweet spot is about 1 foot long. lol

[chpthril]

Are those just standard sacks? Did you fill both sides to surf or just the port side? your wave is sooooooo much longer than mine. I think mine is a little taller, but I'd trade that for longer since my sweet spot is about 1 foot long. lol

They are the new Fly High W719 Jumbo Surf sac.

[rostap]

Is it an auto fill/unfill system? And how did you run your lines? And how do fill and drain? Just curious if i could set up an auto fill/unfil system in my 2000.

[somebodyelse5]

Very nice...that pocket does look super long.

I've seen guys ride with their back to the wake before, but not as what appears to be their preferred method. Seems like you have it nailed though. Any reason for it?

Haha not really, started out riding like that cause i didnt know any better, but i got it down now and riding the darkside on my toes just feels weird haha. I am working on it tho, also working on riding toeside (switch for me) on the port side.

Are those just standard sacks? Did you fill both sides to surf or just the port side? your wave is sooooooo much longer than mine. I think mine is a little taller, but I'd trade that for longer since my sweet spot is about 1 foot long. lol

Looks like mike got to it already but they are def not the standards. Fly high jumbo v drive surf sacs. Filled just the surf side, so in this case it was the port side.
What speed are you going with your wave? and what weight are you running? Taps?

Is it an auto fill/unfill system? And how did you run your lines? And how do fill and drain? Just curious if i could set up an auto fill/unfil system in my 2000.

I have to manually open the valves, but other wise its just flipping the fill switch or drain switch.
I added extra valves on the port and starboard fill lines to keep the water from equalizing with the unfilled sack, so thats another valve i need to open/close when filling.

Lines run from the scoop under the boat past a valve and then to 3 pumps, one for the front sacs, one for the port and one for the starboard sacs. then those are the fill lines. about a foot before the fill attatchment there is another valve that I explained up there and there are some pictures up there. To drain there is a pump for each sac that drains to a vent.

Pretty basic.

[SPBFAN]

Is it an auto fill/unfill system? And how did you run your lines? And how do fill and drain? Just curious if i could set up an auto fill/unfil system in my 2000.

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[Jason B]

Looks like mike got to it already but they are def not the standards. Fly high jumbo v drive surf sacs. Filled just the surf side, so in this case it was the port side.
What speed are you going with your wave? and what weight are you running? Taps?
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We run about 10.5. I have 2 standard V Drive sacks in the port locker all the wya full and a long, low sack that runs up under the port seats back to the rear locker. Total about 1100# I think. No weight up front and my Taps is still shot until I replace the relay...

[somebodyelse5]

We run about 10.5. I have 2 standard V Drive sacks in the port locker all the wya full and a long, low sack that runs up under the port seats back to the rear locker. Total about 1100# I think. No weight up front and my Taps is still shot until I replace the relay...

Might try bumping the speed up a little, and make sure all the weight is on the surf side. Weight in back adds height weight in front adds length.

What is your taps stuck on? put it between 4-6 when its working.

[chpthril]

Is it an auto fill/unfill system? And how did you run your lines? And how do fill and drain? Just curious if i could set up an auto fill/unfil system in my 2000.

There are 2 main systems: One use a basic live well aerator style pump, one to fill the sac and one to empty. Each sac uses 2 pumps. The other uses a more expensive reversible impeller style pump.

From there, there are lots of different configurations. For the aerator pumps, you can use a common manifold to feed all the fill pumps or a dedicated thru-hull for each fill pump (my new favorite way ). Again, both have their pros and cons, so each boat and install may differ. Same for the impeller pump, you can run a dedicated thru-hull for each or a common for all.

You can even do single pump for multiple sacs. For a strictly wakeboard setup, this is an inexpensive and simple but effective means to fill ballast. Down side, it's slow.

The thru-hull(s) can be located in either the bottom or the transom. Down side to the transom is that you cant fill on the fly.

For thru-hulls, i'm a shroom kinda guy Ok, not those kind I'm talking a mushroom thru-hull instead of a scoop. In the forward facing direction, a scoop will force feed the pumps and the sacs will fill when the boat is on plane. For this, a gate valve of some type is needed to shut off the flow. The electric one tend to fail after a season or two, and if a manual ball-valve is used......well, that's not much of an automated system if you have to open and close a valve in the bilge each time you want to use the ballast.

Some guys will recommend that you turn the scoop backwards. This will somewhat work with the reversible pumps, as they are self priming, but not for the aerator type pumps. The down side of the scoop turned backwards, is it can draw a vacuum on the system and actually suck the water out of the sacs while on plane. This results in you having to continuously top off the sacs.

The shrooms will allow for filling on the fly without unwanted filling as well as not creating the suction effect.

As mentioned above, using the aerator pumps requires the use of a dedicated drain pump for each sac. This is because they are NOT self priming and need to be right at the water source.

Since the impeller pumps are reversible, only a single pump is needed for each sac. It will fill and empty with just a flip of the switch. It can be as simple as pushing the water right back out the bottom of the boat, or a bit more involve to where it pumps out the side of the boat. I prefer this method as it lest you know the sac is done draining when the water flow slows to a trickle. These pump are built with run-dry protection, but every minute that pump runs with know water, the life of the impeller is shortened. And there again, if you have to open up all the storage lockers to watch the sacs empty......how automated is that

Do a search on here, there are tons of great ballast info and lots of great installs with pics and descriptions.

Post up if you have any specific questions.