Should I? FAE on an 08 22Ve

[Justinkent83]

Thanks! I placed my order earlier this week. Already sent in the measurements. I assume it'll be a month before they get to my order. I can be patient.

[mycall742]

new, is this the place?
https://www.freshairexhaust.com/your-boat/tige/

[Justinkent83]

new, is this the place?
https://www.freshairexhaust.com/your-boat/tige/

Yes, that's where I ordered mine. We just entered week 4 since placing my order. No news on completion or ship date yet. They did warn me of a 4-5 week lead time, so all is good, just patiently waiting.

[Bryce]

I have a 2008 22Ve also and installed mine 1 year after buying the boat. As others have said, it's a lot quieter and no more exhaust fumes. I bought mine back in 2010 so it was the multi piece exhaust with rubber/clamps for connecting it together. Install took me 2 hours with the swim platform install taking the longest. I'm sure you'll be happy with it.

[Justinkent83]

Hey everyone,

I thought I should give an update on this post. I did end up getting the FAE and installing it. The install went well. The directions were easy enough to follow. Ultimately, yes - it was worth the cost amd effort. I got to surf behind it once before end of season. I will say that if I could go back in time, I would have mounted it such that it was down in the water just a little further. There is a speed at which the hull is displacing just enough water that the exhaust is exposed. I don't remember the exact speed, but it wasn't at my surfing speed or typical cruise speed.

I'll have more to share once this season gets rolling.

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[duffymahoney]

Hey everyone,

I thought I should give an update on this post. I did end up getting the FAE and installing it. The install went well. The directions were easy enough to follow. Ultimately, yes - it was worth the cost amd effort. I got to surf behind it once before end of season. I will say that if I could go back in time, I would have mounted it such that it was down in the water just a little further. There is a speed at which the hull is displacing just enough water that the exhaust is exposed. I don't remember the exact speed, but it wasn't at my surfing speed or typical cruise speed.

I'll have more to share once this season gets rolling.

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There should be no speed that the exhaust will be out of the water.

Picture of how you mounted it?

[Justinkent83]

There should be no speed that the exhaust will be out of the water.

Picture of how you mounted it?

Here are some pics of the install. It's my "perception" based on hearing the exhaust that it's out of the water. I have no way to verify this for sure obviously.

I'll know more after running it some when the weather warms up.

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[duffymahoney]

it's underwater, moving fast enough would probably create a pocket though. If you get too much spray off of it, google wave flap, it's one of my wave inventions from back in the day.

[Justinkent83]

it's underwater, moving fast enough would probably create a pocket though. If you get too much spray off of it, google wave flap, it's one of my wave inventions from back in the day.

Yeah - that's what I was saying, it seems that moving at the right speed creates a "pocket" where the exhaust isn't in the water. I don't know if that's normal for this setups or not.

I could probably go up a few notches on the TAPs and it would be back in the water lol.

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[txmxer]

Worth considering upgrading the fiberglass mufflers to the stainless steel exhaust from fae also. Ive never seen them fail on another boat but my fiberglass mufflers had failed and were letting water in the bilge so I had to upgrade.

[Justinkent83]

Worth considering upgrading the fiberglass mufflers to the stainless steel exhaust from fae also. Ive never seen them fail on another boat but my fiberglass mufflers had failed and were letting water in the bilge so I had to upgrade.

I haven't noticed any leaking into the bilge that wasn't due to my water ballasts. I'll definitely look more closely now that you mention it, thanks!

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[boatwakes]

Get rid of the fiberglass mufflers if you have them, they'll crack from the back pressure created while starting the engine in the water after the FAE is installed, and there is no need to replace with any other muffler just run full length exhaust hose or stainless tubes. Since the exhaust exits underwater, no muffler required and removing them helps both the exhaust and water flow through the system smoothly. Flappers are not required either, they do nothing but increase back pressure and restrict water flow out of the system often causing serious problems when they break away and cause a blockage down stream. Great product and superior customer service.

[Justinkent83]

I did away with the flappers when I installed the FAE. As mentioned before, there is a certain speed at which the hull moving through the water creates a pocket and the FAE seems to be venting to atmosphere. I barely got to use it after install because it was so late in the season. I'll better verify this claim this season.

I'll put this on my maintenance list to replace or delete the mufflers.

Thanks!

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[Jetdriver]

You can absolutely hydrolock your engine if you don’t have flappers.
If your motor stops running for whatever reason while on plane water will rush up the exhaust and spill over the headers into your cylinders as the hull settles into the water.
It happened to me because of an over temp shutdown but same thing could happen if your lanyard got pulled accidentally.
I was lucky to get away without serious damage being done but it could’ve been catastrophic and cost me serious $$.
I love my FAE but I won’t own another without them installed. The flappers are cheap insurance, there’s no down side to using them.

[Justinkent83]

You can absolutely hydrolock your engine if you don’t have flappers.
If your motor stops running for whatever reason while on plane water will rush up the exhaust and spill over the headers into your cylinders as the hull settles into the water.
It happened to me because of an over temp shutdown but same thing could happen if your lanyard got pulled accidentally.
I was lucky to get away without serious damage being done but it could’ve been catastrophic and cost me serious $$.
I love my FAE but I won’t own another without them installed. The flappers are cheap insurance, there’s no down side to using them.

Thanks for the info, Jetdriver. I'm surprised that happened. I wonder what the FAE folks have to say about it. They seem pretty insistent that the flappers aren't needed.

I'm going to look into replacing the mufflers and may very well do the flappers then too.

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