ConvexV and Taps2 Really Work?

[MTtigekid]

i have ridden behind many types of boats (MC, malibu, centurion, nautique, mooba, supra, and even a handfull of I/O's) and i have to say, tige's wake may not be the "biggest" out there but with te taps and hull design it definately creates the wake that is the most in tune with how a rider rides and the kind of wake a rider likes whether a rider likes a wake sharp and peaky or soft and mellow
also tige is one of the only brands i have surfed behind that has a decent goofy side surf wave with stock ballast... on our 24ve our goofy side is actually better as far as condition (curl/smoothness) than our regular side surfwave

[Guapo]

More advice...

Thanks for all the great advice. I'm heading out with the nearest Tige dealer tomorrow to test drive a 2008 22Ve or 24Ve. I'm more interested in the RZ2 or RZ4, but all he has in stock are the forementioned. If I buy from him, I will have to order...or look at another dealer. Are the 2008 Ve's going to perform close enough to the 2009 RZ's for a fair comparison?

Next question...He is offering some good deals on the two 2008 Ve's above.

This is the 24'...he is asking $50,000 (link to his website: http://www.daysboatsales.com/pre_own...h=1096738&nv=y

This is the 22'...he is askig $45,000. (link to his website:http://www.daysboatsales.com/pre_own...h=1096740&nv=y

I tend to overdo things and load cars to the max and would tend to do the same thing if I ordered a boat. I'm sure he will be pushing me to buy one of these boats, but I REALLY like the 2009 tower, engine, etc. and I would prefer the RZ. Any thoughts?

Also, if I end up going with Tige is it worth the extra money to get the 400hp PCM? I was thinking it might be with the 24' but not necessary with the 22'...any thoghts. The dealer thinks I would do fine with either size boat and the smaller engine. I tend to overdo things and would knee jerk into the 400hp.

I know that's a lot of questions but I'm looking at dropping a lot of coin and don't want any regrets. By the way, he said an ordered RZ2 loaded with the 400 hp would be in the 67,500 range (around 64,000 with the 340 hp) (with trailer) and the RZ4 would be a little over 70,000 (with trailer) and would take 5 weeks to get. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
David

[da.bell]

The hulls are very similar so you can get a fair comparison IMO between the 22Ve and the RZ2 or the 24Ve and the RZ4. However, the RZ's are a little heavier by 100-200 lbs.

The PCM 340 engine should be good for either boat. I had the MP 340 HP engine in the 24Ve and again in the RZ2. The engine did fine and if you add ballast, you will reprop anyways. IMO, the 340 will be fine.

But again, I have 7 people in my family and the 24Ve was just a huge boat. Probably too big for my taste. The RZ2 is perfect for the family and I only have 1 person less than the 24Ve can fit. So, IMO, the RZ2 is where it's at.

[Guapo]

Size...

I have 6 in my family. We could easily have 10 to 12 folks in our boat at any given time. I'm planning on testing the 22 partly to make sure it feels large enough. I'd rather go with the 22(RZ) if it fits....

[evil0ne]

To me a 24Ve = RZ2 in terms of comfort for passengers. I have a 24V and would have no problem going to a RZ2. The RZ4 is a badass boat but I don't think the extra 2' is necessary on the RZ models but bigger is supposed to be always better .

[gman]

Go with the biggest you can afford. You have a big boat then there is more storage, space and comfort and not as crowded. You will be happier!

[highrock]

yeah bigger is always better

[da.bell]

To me a 24Ve = RZ2 in terms of comfort for passengers. I have a 24V and would have no problem going to a RZ2. The RZ4 is a badass boat but I don't think the extra 2' is necessary on the RZ models but bigger is supposed to be always better .

Perfect explanation.

[da.bell]

Go with the biggest you can afford. You have a big boat then there is more storage, space and comfort and not as crowded. You will be happier!

yeah bigger is always better

Not when it comes to learning how to drive an inboard for the first time.

[dingleberry]

Nopt when it comes to learning how to drive an inboard for the first time.

I'll second that. My wife was the one who really wanted the RZ4 over the RZ2. I didn't think it was needed, but her urging, and my fear of getting "2-foot-itis" lead us to go with the 4.

I have to say, now I kind of wish we had gone with the 2. I still love our boat, but I think that for us, the 2 would have been big enough. Learning to drive was a bit of a challenge. At least we don't feel cramped for space!

[Waterski-Rebel]

Personally, I really like my 20V (SwitchV). It fits in my garage, and gives me a nice slalom wake.

[Timmy!]

I would guess that the new RZ2 will put you deep into the $60's vs the 22/24 for SMOKIN deals! I have an RZ2 but if there would have been a brand new loaded up 22Ve for $45k when I bought mine, I would be driving the 22Ve right now!

[Duncan]

Also, if I end up going with Tige is it worth the extra money to get the 400hp PCM? I was thinking it might be with the 24' but not necessary with the 22'...any thoghts. The dealer thinks I would do fine with either size boat and the smaller engine. I tend to overdo things and would knee jerk into the 400hp.

I am very happy with the decision to put the 409 in our RZ2. With four people in the boat, starboard rear and bow internal tanks full, and about 3/4 of a 1000lb fat sack in the rear locker, the engine shots to about 4800rpm at 10.5mph TAPS 4 when turning around. I am sure a more agressive prop would help this. Nonetheless, I love the 409. Plus it makes me happy and lets me sleep better

[loudelectronics]

Think of Tige's as a drivers and riders boat. Tige makes it easy on the driver with the Taps. with a flick of a button you can control the size and shape of the wake as well as quality with out having to move ballast around or change your speed. Tige's benefit from ballast no doubt, But with most boats you will load them up and the wakes may need to be carried at a set speed to keep the lip firm. With tige you can load em up and adjust the taps to get the wake to clean up. Also not every rider likes the same shape wake. Taps allows you to cater to there demands. No other boat can do this.

Spend a day on a tige and then go drive any other brand you will be looking for a taps button all day. Especially in rough water. Tiges are excellent in rough water.

Taps also allows better fuel economy. This allows the boat to plane better and not push as much water.

I have a 24v with the 6.0 liter and I can say I am happy with my fuel consumption. On average it costs me 30 bucks an hour to operate a boat of this size and loaded down.

MC's are nice boats now doubt. However they are more about bling then anything. You end up paying a lot for nothing special. There is way more value in a tige boat then MC per dollar spent. You will be glad you purchased one. One thing too is the MC's need a but load of ballast to get there patented wake. This kills fuel economy, and the tige can do it with half as much.

[Tequilasun]

Here's my thoughts on a few things:

22' vs 24'. I think you guys are kinda splitting hairs. We went 22' because they do handle a little bit better. But with practice it's a non issue. Kind of like driving a truck vs a car. Sure parking a car is easier, but it's not tough in a truck.

Motor: I don't see the need for the biggest motor, prop matters so much more. None of the offerings will be dogs. 300 hp is pretty standard. Resale might be easier one way or the other, check other boats in your market, some don't support the extra $$ for the biggest motors. The builers offer them because people want choice, and they will buy them. But fuel costs are more of a factor now than ever. Remember this type of boat has really no value in top end speed. It's all about hole shot and torque. Again, prop means more in those areas.

Taps absolutly works. It's a great thing to have even if you just use it to get across a crowded lake. Our lake has quite a few big cruisers and they chop the main channel up pretty bad. Being able to adjust trim angles is awesome, and will get you to your riding spot with all your teeth! I always feel sorry for other wakeboats as the bounce around the lake headed to their riding spots. And that's just one benefit.