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    Another Ballast Install w/Questions

    There have been plenty of ballast install threads lately, but with every one I read I have learned something new and it seems like every one of them is a little different from the next. So I figured I'd post up for one more example, not quite finished but pretty close. I have really appreciated everyones help, I think I emailed every one that has a jabsco system and bugged them with questions, so thanks for taking the time and getting back to me, also thanks to Andrew for rounding up all the parts. I went with the three pump system with a bow sac for the front and a v-drive sac for the port side and a custom sac (still need to order) for the starboard side. For the switches I replaced my ACC, Docking Lights, and Shower switch. I rewired the switches under the dash for future use. I used 12 ga. wire to all the pumps and put 20 amp inline fuses on all the switches. I used the negative and positive buss bar under the dash for the power and ground.




    Here is the rear port locker set up like TigeDuner, just waiting to install the check valves.





    Here is the setup on the starboard side. I am draining from the bottom of the boat and venting from the side. Here is where my first question comes in. I have been looking at NHarp1's setup and how he is filling and draining from the top of the sacs, If this works and drains the water out I would like to just have one line coming from the pump to the top of the sac and then a vent line on the other side of the bag. With the vent line having a check valve the bag should turn into a vacuum and drain and the way I have my fill lines ran it should prevent any back flow and unwanted drainage through the pump.



    The green line represents the one line I want to run from the pump to the bag and then on the other side just have a vent line with a check valve. All the hoses are ran so that they go up from the pump so that when the pump turns off water should go down hill and prime the pumps. The red lines represent the water flowing back to the pump after they are turned off keeping water in the pump always. The one line for filling and draining and one vent line seems very simple. What does everyone think? I'm not sure if anyone has tried it yet, but it seems like it would work.



    On to the bow sac, the line on the right is the intake from the manifold, it then exits the pump and T's off to branch off to both sides of the bow sac. Once again I have the line come up the wall before it gets to the pump. The lines that go to the sac go up where the existing wire loom runs to the front preventing any unwanted backflow. Here's another question. I wasn't planning on adding any check valves except on the vent line. Does anyone see a problem with that setup?



    I was planning on having one line on each side for filling and draining and one vent line at the top with a check valve to help obtain the vacuum for draining.



    Here's some more pictures




    Not even a Half Inch!


    Here is the manifold, it's just sitting there, I haven't drilled the bottom yet.


    Well that's all for now. I'll keep everone informed of the water test, not for a couple more months though. Thanks for all you feedback and suggestions.

    #2
    looking good!!!!!!!!
    Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. THAT'S relativity. Albert Einstein

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      #3
      please, what is the total extent of this bag? you think that comes into my 20v?

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        #4
        micah
        where did you mount the screen for the harmon kardon. Pics please?

        Ballast is looking good.
        Let it be!!!

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          #5
          joikin, I'd say around 127-130cm when full. I'm not sure how large the compartment is on the 20V but the 22V has plenty of room to spare length wise. XPJim1, here's a picture of the screen, couldn't really think of where else to put it.

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            #6
            ot sorry...... my HK drive and play lasted about 3 weeks in the boat-------POS!!!!!!!!
            Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

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              #7
              Jason, mines still ticking away after a year, but even if I did need to replace it it cost me $2.00 on ebay. That's it $2.00, because they have a new model with a color screen.

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                #8
                Thanks Micah. Just trying to get ideas of where to mount it
                Let it be!!!

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                  #9
                  Micah,

                  Be careful with the connections on the top of the bag on the bow sac. They will push up on the seat and that will put a ton pressure on the connection and the sac when filled.
                  Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. THAT'S relativity. Albert Einstein

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                    #10
                    G-MONEY, thanks. I originally had it set up where they were connected on the bottom but then I read somewhere that these pumps do not like to pump against the weight of the water and to fill from the top. I take it that it's not really a big deal for the pumps to fill from the bottom on the bow sac.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Micah View Post
                      G-MONEY, thanks. I originally had it set up where they were connected on the bottom but then I read somewhere that these pumps do not like to pump against the weight of the water and to fill from the top. I take it that it's not really a big deal for the pumps to fill from the bottom on the bow sac.
                      Just keep an eye on it the first time you fill the bow sack....
                      Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. THAT'S relativity. Albert Einstein

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                        #12
                        The stars finally aligned and we were able to get the boat out and test the ballast system. Everything worked like a charm, just have a few little bugs to work out. Thought I would have problems filling the large sac from the bottom because of all the weight but it worked great. The custom surf sac is so worth it. It sinks the corner way more than stacking the 400lbs bags ever did. Here are a few pictures of the sac full in the rear port corner.





                        The measurments were made for a newer 22VE, I could of added a little more height and a little more length on the main section of the bag. I'm completely pleased with the wave. The water really sucked today (whitecaps) so didn't get a chance to surf, but will post picks of the wave next time.

                        Now for some questions, I noticed my bow fill up was only filling in one side even though I teed it off to go to both ends. It seemed the pump wasn't powerfull enough to push water down two lines. I think a few people have this same design with the bow sac, Is anyone else having similar issues. I wouldn't necessarily call it an issue since it did fill up and drain. I also had one or two very small drip leaks where the hose attached to the pump. What's everyone using beside just a c-clamp on those? It's incredible having all the ballast automated. So worth the time and money put into it.

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                          #13
                          The water will take the path of least resitence, so it could be the routing of the hose. Since the bow sac is one open chamber, I wouldnt worry about the filling part, as the water will equalize as it fills. If it's pulling water out of both legs when draining, then i'd call it good

                          Looks like a pretty good fit, thanks for the pics. How much more do you think it could take on your 23V?
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