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    09 RZ4 Piggyback Ballast

    Hey everyone,

    I saw there was not much information on here about RZ4 ballast, and figured I would do an update on what I have done with my new to me boat. I have an 09 RZ4, with the stock ballast system. My wife's first time driving a boat was after we bought this, and I have 4 kids, and the oldest is 6, so I really do not want to list my boat since these wake systems are out there now. I decided on the Mission Delta.

    My front ballast when I got it had a hole chewed in it from a mouse or something about the size of a silver dollar. I used the patch kit off my HO Fad that I bought for my kids, put a patch on the inside, and then another on the outside. It held up and did not leak through the first use. I do not intend on doing anymore here. 400 lbs and it fills up most of the locker, I don't think there is much more I can do, and since I do not plan to list, only filling up one side is not a benefit to me.

    As for back ballast, all I had was the 2 hard tanks at 250 lbs per. I wanted to add ballast, but 1. did not want to drill more holes in the boat, 2. did not want to spend a fortune, and 3. ABSOLUTELY wanted it to be automated. I initially called wakemakers, who said that they do not sell piggyback systems for the rz4, and that they do not work well with the boat. I then talked to Mike (Chpthril) and he told me he could help me out. His pricing was on point, and he a great loyal following on here so I decided to trust him, and I am glad that I did. I didn't want the custom sacs, as they would have taken up storage space under the seats, and I really did not want to do that with the 4 little kids, as I am going to have to store a tube or 2 in the boat under seats, so I did not have more space to give up (I bought the RZ4 for the space, so I didn't want to lose all of it to ballast.) Mike recommended I go with the 1100 lb jumbo fatsacs. Said they would not fill to about 800 lbs in the lockers.

    Installation was really not bad. Mike hooked me up with A diagram and instructions. It took myself and another guy about 5 hours total to get it all done. The hardest part was getting the false floor out of the lockers. (The screws were completely hidden. Kind of had to pick up the floor, and see where it was catching.) I even called Mike at this point (about 6:30 at night) and asked him if I was missing something or if the false floor was glued, and he told me it was going to be a nightmare to find the screws. I do not want to get into too many details here, nor will I share Mike's diagram, as I feel that if I did people would bypass Mike to save a penny (which I doubt you would save anyways.)

    So on to the sea trial. I packed up the boat with everything we needed for the day. It was probably 15-20 mph winds, so there was white caps on the water, and the boat handled the water great. It was my families first ride on the boat, so we did some joy riding, then went into town for lunch, and finally it was time to test out the ballast. I pressed the three buttons, and everything started filling. The front filled in a couple minutes, and the back filled in around 10. I threw the delta on the side of the boat as low as I could get it, and took off. The 537 actually did not have a problem, but when I got up to 11.4 the wave was completely washed out. I then turned on the empty for the non surf side and about 15 seconds later the wave cleaned up and looked beautiful. I drove around for a few minutes and grabbed a couple pics of the wave, and then that was it. I did not try to dial it in, nor did I even remember to adjust the taps off of 1. I will do more this weekend hopefully and will be happy to update.

    Emptying the bags, I left it in neutral and dropped the bags, wanted to make sure everything emptied, and it did just as Mike had said. Again about 10 minutes, but would normally do this under way.

    Overall, very happy with the purchase, and service from Mike. I will add a picture of the wake from my phone in another post, however like I said, I did not really try to dial it in, nor did I change the taps setting from 1.

    Let me know if you have any questions.

    #2
    Photos as promised

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      #3
      Also if anyone has any recommendations for dialing it in please let me know

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        #4
        Looks great trevor! Are you running the delta in reverse orientation or forward? Also I think the taps adjusting will really help out with the shape.

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          #5
          Love the blue water by the way!

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            #6
            You're gonna want the taps around 4-5, 10.8-11.6 mph. The taps plate adjustment will make a huge difference in wave quality. Next time start with everything full, then adjust the taps, then adjust speed slightly. More speed or bow weight make the wave longer, less make the wave taller.

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              #7
              This was at 11.6, i had in standard orientation with the fin forward. On skaneatlas lake in NY.

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                #8
                Originally posted by trevor View Post
                This was at 11.6, i had in standard orientation with the fin forward. On skaneatlas lake in NY.

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                You might want to try reverse because I have heard it works better farther back

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                  #9
                  Will do

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chugh2o View Post
                    You might want to try reverse because I have heard it works better farther back
                    Has anyone out there had it work better in standard orientation than in reverse orientation?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by trevor View Post
                      Has anyone out there had it work better in standard orientation than in reverse orientation?
                      Not sure but have seen majestic on his 22ve work great in reverse and lots of nauticurls which come in reverse work great


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                        #12
                        Did not have a chance to try the delta reversed yet but did just switch it. Still had to list slightly to get a clean wake (emptied side with delta for about 20-30 seconds is all.)

                        Taps made a HUGE difference. This is taps on 5. Now i just need to learn how to balance so i can drop the rope. Anyobe know what board would help or if mine should work? I am 6'5" 290. Liquid force rocket 5'4".

                        Updated wake pic

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                          #13
                          Trevor: Try bumping up the amount of bow weight you are using. It will help push that curl back. I know others have mentioned how much the 24's like bow weight. I also find running goofy likes a lot of bow weight.

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                            #14
                            That was at 10.6mph. I dont have room for much more bow weight as the kids love riding up there. Could i also increase speed to lengthen the wake instead?

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                              #15
                              Yes speed will help lengthen the wave


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