2016 R21 Surf & Wakeboard Set-up Suggestions

[SilverSurfer16]

Anyone withe a 2015-17 R21 like to share their taps and ballast set-ups for both surfing and wakeboarding please?

[Germaine Marine]

Anyone withe a 2015-17 R21 like to share their taps and ballast set-ups for both surfing and wakeboarding please?

16-17 Taps 3

I would say rears full, fronts around 30% to start. Taps 3 at 1 and taps 2 between 3-5 with speed in the neighborhood of 11MPH

[SilverSurfer16]

What do you mean by "taps 3" and "taps 2"?

[Germaine Marine]

Taps 3 is tiges current surf system comprising of 2 surf plates. Taps 2 is tiges center trim plate

[SilverSurfer16]

Thanks I got that, but are you setting both sides or just the one you want to surf?

[Mike88]

For my Z1 2016 taps 3.

I put both rear bag full.
When nobody seat on the front I fill 50% the surfer side.
center taps at 4. Taps3 at 1 or 2 depends on wich side I surf.
And speed around 10,8. Never slower then 10,7 or faster than 11.

But that's for me. The good thing about Tigé system is that you can create your own perfect wave.
We don't have any specific settings because everything can change the shape and quality of your wave.. wind, number of people in the boat and where they sit, if you prefer to ride slower or faster, If you prefer a skim wave or surfstyle..
system like Moomba surf 2.0 or Axis is press the button and deal with that..
With Tigé you can use different setting to counter all these factors.
Exemple. like I said I usually put my center plate at 4 and taps3 at 1
But if I have 5 adults in the boat seating in the rear, probably put my center at 5 and taps at 3.

The best tips I can give you is the same one they told me here!
Take the time to know your boat haha. You bought a surf beast.
Yes it may take a day to fully understand how the settings works but at the end you gonna know exactly what taps you have to change when your wave need little correction!

Wakeboard Usually put my center taps at 6. Both Rear ballast 25%, front starboard (driver) side 25%, port side 50%.
But I don't wakeboard much anymore and doesn't like a big wave that pop 15ft high haha.

Good luck!

[SilverSurfer16]

Thank you! I appreciate everyone sharing!

[Germaine Marine]

Really depends on the functionality you want from the system.

If you want easy switching with a good wave on both sides then I would fill the rears full, and make sure you arent getting any passive draining (fill the rears until they puke out the overflows and then shut them off, run the boat for 10 min and recheck bag level) If the bags arent as full as when you filled them then you are losing water. With all these boats that is step one. If you are losing water Plug thru holes with expansion plugs. Once that is done I would fill the front until you get around 8 degrees of bow rise while underway. My guess with stock weight is around 30-40 %.

Taps 2 between 3-6 depending on crew size and Taps 3 between 1-5. Each Taps 3 setting has a numerical assignment in relation to its movement if that makes any sense. The difference between 1-5 in taps 3 is only around 4 numerical points of movement per.... vs settings 5-13 which is almost 10 points of movement per.

Speed will vary but I would start at 11mph.

If you want to start tuning for the best wave the boat will make on a specific side I would tune for roll as well. I accomplish this by both dropping 5-7% opposite rear weight and by running my bow heavy on the surf side and light on the non.

My boat likes 6-8 degrees of roll while underway and roughly 8-10 degrees of bow rise.

Like I said, LOSING WATER is the biggest killer right now with these boats. They aren't anti-siphoned and they aren't valved/plumbed correctly so a majority of boats are bleeding water off the start. Makes tuning the wave impossible and consistency unattainable.

[dilligaf622]

What prop are you guys running on your z1/r21? I just ordered the acme 1433 prop and hope to get to try it out this weekend. I figured I should reprop before I add any additional weight to the boat.


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[Germaine Marine]

I would run the 1235 personally.... and see if that has enough for you. If not I would go to the 2315.

[dilligaf622]

the 1235 shows to be for the bigger boats on wakemakers.com. I really dont know the difference personally, what would I gain with the 1235 vs. the 1433?

I think I could run into clearance issues with the 1/2" I would be adding with the 1235.

[Germaine Marine]

How much clearance do you have now? I think the 1235 is fine on your z1 but just a guess. Its not a good prop for big boats, not nearly enough for weighted down boats.

[dilligaf622]

How much clearance do you have now? I think the 1235 is fine on your z1 but just a guess. Its not a good prop for big boats, not nearly enough for weighted down boats.

So the 1433 is not a good prop?


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[Germaine Marine]

Its a decent prop if you have clearance issues. If you dont have issues, it wouldnt be on my list

[Dandy]

the 1235 shows to be for the bigger boats on wakemakers.com. I really dont know the difference personally, what would I gain with the 1235 vs. the 1433?

I think I could run into clearance issues with the 1/2" I would be adding with the 1235.

Keep in mind that 1/2" increase in diameter will only equal 1/4" reduction in clearance. It seems simple but is overlooked by quite a few people.

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