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    #16
    Originally posted by chpthril View Post
    Are the rear sac's drain/vent T-hulls also above the rubrail? Its usually the rear sacs where the passive draining is experienced.
    This is ALL of my drains and vents, for both front and rear sacs. There are four thruhulls on each side. That covers drain and vent from port (2), drain and vent from starboard (2), two drains and one vent from the Integrated Bow Sac (3), and one extra for symmetry that will probably be an extra bilge pump someday.

    Works great, no antisyphon valves required, easy to monitor while driving, etc. If I had it to do over again I would put them in exactly the same place.

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      #17
      My thru-hulls for vents and drains are already at the rear of the boat so I'll do opposite side for drains and vents, and I'll put a loop in the lines as well to trap and prevent passive draining or filling.

      Mike, I know you just got back and have to decompress and post pics, I'm just firming up ideas and getting the ball rolling since the CINCHouse almost gave me the full 100% approval to start with a ballast upgrade. The tipping point for her was that I had to have her help me lift the 150# sacs from one V locker to the other to switch sides. I'm getting better on my heelside or backside or left breaking waves to accomodate her, but friends who learn are usually regular footed.
      2009 RZ2, PCM 343, MLA Surf Ballast, Premium Sound.
      2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD W/Timbren SES

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        #18
        Originally posted by WABoating View Post
        This is ALL of my drains and vents, for both front and rear sacs. There are four thruhulls on each side. That covers drain and vent from port (2), drain and vent from starboard (2), two drains and one vent from the Integrated Bow Sac (3), and one extra for symmetry that will probably be an extra bilge pump someday.

        Works great, no antisyphon valves required, easy to monitor while driving, etc. If I had it to do over again I would put them in exactly the same place.
        I C.
        Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And More

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          #19
          Originally posted by Ewok View Post
          My thru-hulls for vents and drains are already at the rear of the boat so I'll do opposite side for drains and vents, and I'll put a loop in the lines as well to trap and prevent passive draining or filling.

          Mike, I know you just got back and have to decompress and post pics, I'm just firming up ideas and getting the ball rolling since the CINCHouse almost gave me the full 100% approval to start with a ballast upgrade. The tipping point for her was that I had to have her help me lift the 150# sacs from one V locker to the other to switch sides. I'm getting better on my heelside or backside or left breaking waves to accomodate her, but friends who learn are usually regular footed.
          Just got back, nothin'.....we're still partying up in Vegas But leave out tomorrow
          Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And More

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            #20
            Originally posted by chpthril View Post
            Just got back, nothin'.....we're still partying up in Vegas But leave out tomorrow
            Party on Wayne
            2009 RZ2, PCM 343, MLA Surf Ballast, Premium Sound.
            2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD W/Timbren SES

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              #21
              Originally posted by Ewok View Post
              Party on Wayne
              Party on Garth
              Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And More

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                #22
                Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                You might reconsider given how easy this is to do. All plumbing and pumps already exist. Just connect two separate sacks to the existing lines (plus one vent T) and rewire one of the pumps.

                I think the ability to have surf-side specific bow weight really cleans up the wave (i.e., similar pocket lengthening compared to U-sack but much less wave mushiness).
                I'll have to check but I think there is only one fill pump and two empty pump. If there are two seperate pumps I thought about just putting a zip-tie on the middle of the bag and re-wiring one of the pumps as you said. I won't gain much weight getting seperate 400 lb bags when the single 400 bag fills the entire space.
                2009 RZ2, PCM 343, MLA Surf Ballast, Premium Sound.
                2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD W/Timbren SES

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                  #23
                  What the hell is a CINCHouse? Obviously your wife but, WTF is a CINCHouse?

                  I'm going to one better you all with my vents. Cross vented, check valved, mounted under the windshield, above the rub rail

                  You'll get your chance, smart guy.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by NICKYPOO View Post
                    What the hell is a CINCHouse? Obviously your wife but, WTF is a CINCHouse?
                    Commander-in-Chief House

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ewok View Post
                      I'll have to check but I think there is only one fill pump and two empty pump. If there are two seperate pumps I thought about just putting a zip-tie on the middle of the bag and re-wiring one of the pumps as you said. I won't gain much weight getting seperate 400 lb bags when the single 400 bag fills the entire space.
                      Chpthril is up to speed on the 09 bow plumbing -- I bought all the bags and parts for the project from him. On our 2009 RZ2, there was one fill and one drain pump for each side.

                      I put in two 400# bags -- they do not fill all the way but I think there is at least 300#.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                        Chpthril is up to speed on the 09 bow plumbing -- I bought all the bags and parts for the project from him. On our 2009 RZ2, there was one fill and one drain pump for each side.

                        I put in two 400# bags -- they do not fill all the way but I think there is at least 300#.
                        Do the bags extend past the bow seat cusion into the storage area in front of the passenger or driver side? I use the driver side for life jackets and the other side for the anchor and the many bags of stuff we have for the baby and toddler.
                        2009 RZ2, PCM 343, MLA Surf Ballast, Premium Sound.
                        2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD W/Timbren SES

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by dingleberry View Post
                          Commander-in-Chief House
                          Ahhh. Thankyou.
                          You'll get your chance, smart guy.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Ewok View Post
                            Any comments and/or lessons learned to help the process go smoother will be greatly appreciated.
                            Order an extra 10' of hose. At least. I did and used every bit of it. I still have some to trim off of the vents (whenever I get around to doing the fuel tank switch) but, not more than a couple feet total. I'm also gonna get a couple 1" barb to 1" barb couplers in case of a punctured line and keep 'em in the boat.
                            You'll get your chance, smart guy.

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                              #29
                              Thanks for the tips, the barb couplers is a good idea.

                              Thanks Dingle for the explanation, along those lines, anyone know what DINK stands for?

                              Dual Income No Kids
                              2009 RZ2, PCM 343, MLA Surf Ballast, Premium Sound.
                              2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD W/Timbren SES

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                                #30
                                Dual Income No Kids?

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