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    Ballast Install without drilling

    Is there any way i can have the ballast bag but not have to drill fill/vent/drain holes through my hull and still get it to work?

    cant i just stock the hose over the side into the water and let it till and drain that way? i know its not clean and oem looking, but im way too scared to start drilling into my hull.

    ant btw, wtf is a vent hole for anyway, how does it work, where does it go and what does it get atatched to?
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    Yes you can manually fill and empty with a manual pump over the side. that's what I am doing this year - with plans to do an integrated system as a winter project.

    This pump plugs into a 12V outlet.

    http://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-tsunami-pump.html

    talk to Chpthrl or Jason@wakemakers they know their stuff and will get you a good deal

    Vents give the air some place to go when the water comes in and allow air in when you drain the water.

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      #3
      so what ensures that water doesnt flow in or out of the vent hose? does this hose have to be placed anywhere in specific relative to the bag or other hoses?

      is there an "abc" basics of ballast for newbies like myself? i feel like these are very basic questions but i have no clue?

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        #4
        Its a very awkward system to have a switch opporated filling/draining ballast system, but not have an plumbed-in componenents.

        You would have to use a reversible impellor style pump. The switch would have to be located by the sac as you would have a to babysit the sac and vent it manually and then shut the pump off when the sac was full. I think you would be best surved by using a Fly High W709 manual-fill pump kit.
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          #5
          so to avoid drilling any new holes, can i "T" off the incoming raw water intake and send one side to the existing hose, and the other to the tsunami pump with a check valve?

          Then for draining, can i "T" off the bilge pump outlet thru hull, again putting a check valve between the existing bilge pump and the "T"?

          This would be OK or am i asking for trouble?

          also, do i need to make sure to get the pump below the water line so it primes?

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            #6
            Originally posted by light200 View Post
            so to avoid drilling any new holes, can i "T" off the incoming raw water intake and send one side to the existing hose, and the other to the tsunami pump with a check valve?

            Then for draining, can i "T" off the bilge pump outlet thru hull, again putting a check valve between the existing bilge pump and the "T"?

            This would be OK or am i asking for trouble?

            also, do i need to make sure to get the pump below the water line so it primes?
            2 problems with t'ing off the raw water supply. I have heard peeps doing this with out problems, but I have heard some have seen it starve the raw water pump if filling the ballast with engine running. 2nd, the scoop will force-feed the pump while underway, so a gate valve of some kind would be needed to prevent the passive filling. Even with an impeller style pump, i think you would see some passive filling because the newer pumps come with the slicker Nitrile impellers. The electric gate valves are prone to early failures, and a manual one would require reaching down into the bilge to open/close every time you wanted to use the ballast.

            I have toyed around alot with various semi-plumbed systems. In the end, they were either too expensive, too complicated, or ended up being more manual then just filling with a W709.
            Mikes Liquid Audio: Knowledge Experience Customer Service you can trust-KICKER WetSounds ACME props FlyHigh Custom Ballast Clarion LiquidLumens LEDs Roswell Wave Deflector And More

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              #7
              If you don't want to drill holes to add a ballast system use the 12v Fly High Tsunami pump. It will fill and drain bags quicker than most automated systems.

              For an integrated system to work correctly and be reliable you will need to drill. Why deal with a boat load of other issues to get past placing another intake fitting in the bottom of your boat? Just my 2 cents. Listen to chpthril. He knows what he is talking about.

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                #8
                Originally posted by spencerwm View Post
                Listen to chpthril. He knows what he is talking about.
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                  #9
                  X3.

                  We started w manual approach w single 400 lb bag and Tsunami pump from chpthril when we started surfing to check it out and see if we wanted to continue. After discovering MORE IS BETTER - like everyone else then added 2 more 400lb bags via buddy loaner all manual fill which got to be lots of work and 30 mins of bag hassle. Guess what? we r crazy on wake surfing now and ski maybe 3-4 times per summer. now have automated system w 1000lb bag that Chpthril installed for us and love it.

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                    #10
                    whoops- we still have the manual bag for goofy footers and bulk up when only 3 in the boat since automated sytem is only on port side.

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